Having to play a full back centre forward


It is poor…

1. Stewart was likely to leave
2. Simms had a clause to say that he could return which he did
3. There was a chance Stewart would get injured
4. There was clearly nobody in the academy ready
5. We were on a roll and had a chance to challenge the play offs

so my risk analysis spider senses are off the scale if I am in recruitment. Any 2 (for me it would be 1) of the above factors should have seen us with another striker. Especially given the recruitment ethos of getting promising young players in.

it is negligence in the extreme
Couldn't agree more. They didn't learn the lesson from last season when we only had Stewart from February onwards. Broadhead was injured and injury prone, Defoe was approaching 40 and for that reason couldn't be relied on to start games. Then obviously he wrapped in but even if he hadn't, he wasn't a player who could be second choice and lead the line, more a bonus player.

They got away with it last season but they should have sighed a breath of relief and ensured we wouldn't be in that position again.
 
Who was available?
Come on man mate, there are millions of footballers on this planet.
It doesn't matter if he is shite and can't score, the midfield will score, we just need a player up there to aim for who can hold the ball and bring the midfield into play and let us get out.

Teams are just going to do the same thing against us every week for the rest of the season, high press, force us to hit it long and give possession away.
Exactly, look at Man Utd signing Weghorst.
 
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Why does it always have to be a “Will Grigg” type signing?

We signed Ross Stewart in January too, why can’t the recruitment team do their job and sign a decent striker? They’ve had plenty of time (and a couple of month of watching the consequences) to find and sign one.

They deservedly get praise for the likes of Hume, Ballard, Ba, Michut, Alese etc. so they deservedly get stuck for our current striker situation, a situation that many saw in August but were laughed at.
That's covered though surely by the fact we didn't sign anyone?

They rated Stewart, the deal fit the model so he was signed. They clearly didn't rate any other option this year and couldn't get them signed for a fee/deal they were comfortable with.

Personally I trust the model, I think if you look at how things have gone in the last 2 seasons you'd be daft not too. So I wouldn't want them to just sign any old striker and go outside of the model.
 
That's covered though surely by the fact we didn't sign anyone?

They rated Stewart, the deal fit the model so he was signed. They clearly didn't rate any other option this year and couldn't get them signed for a fee/deal they were comfortable with.

Personally I trust the model, I think if you look at how things have gone in the last 2 seasons you'd be daft not too. So I wouldn't want them to just sign any old striker and go outside of the model.
That's where you've got to be pragmatic and not tunnel visioned by the "model.' We are not in the champions league where the pool of players to improve us is very small. We are in the championship, there is no excuses for not having 3 competent players who can compete at this level.

If patto left in the summer but we couldn't find a replacement that fit the model, would you be happy to start the season with only Bass?
 
It’s huge mistake we made in deciding two would suffice not once but twice. It’s the recruitment teams weak spot. That’s what’s added the pressure 4 days to go and I think we’ll finish much lower than our current position as a result but I’m still glad we didn’t sign any old shite in the last 4 days as was demanded in r it could have slowed our long term growth.
 
When all the happy clapoers were cheering beating an awful QPR side I predicted this would happen.
👏 there you go, you've got the clap.

So well done for predicting that we might lose a game in the future whilst not celebrating a 3-0 away win. A born superstar.
It is poor…

1. Stewart was likely to leave
2. Simms had a clause to say that he could return which he did
3. There was a chance Stewart would get injured
4. There was clearly nobody in the academy ready
5. We were on a roll and had a chance to challenge the play offs

so my risk analysis spider senses are off the scale if I am in recruitment. Any 2 (for me it would be 1) of the above factors should have seen us with another striker. Especially given the recruitment ethos of getting promising young players in.

it is negligence in the extreme
We did get another striker in, a promising young player.
 
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It is poor…

1. Stewart was likely to leave
2. Simms had a clause to say that he could return which he did
3. There was a chance Stewart would get injured
4. There was clearly nobody in the academy ready
5. We were on a roll and had a chance to challenge the play offs

so my risk analysis spider senses are off the scale if I am in recruitment. Any 2 (for me it would be 1) of the above factors should have seen us with another striker. Especially given the recruitment ethos of getting promising young players in.

it is negligence in the extreme
Is there a club of similar statue to SAFC in world football to have no centre forwards in their squad? I would doubt it.

Whilst recruitment has generally been very good in terms of the most important part of the team it has to be said that it is negligence in the extreme.

It has killed the momentum the club had going forward which is such a shame. We have invested in recruitment but we have spoilt the ship for a hapath of tar.

Hopefully it can be put right finally in the summer.
 
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👏 there you go, you've got the clap.

So well done for predicting that we might lose a game in the future whilst not celebrating a 3-0 away win. A born superstar.

We did get another striker in, a promising young player.
He is not the type of player we need. I don’t think he is good enough anyway, but we needed someone who could be a focal point.
 
Couldn't agree more. They didn't learn the lesson from last season when we only had Stewart from February onwards. Broadhead was injured and injury prone, Defoe was approaching 40 and for that reason couldn't be relied on to start games. Then obviously he wrapped in but even if he hadn't, he wasn't a player who could be second choice and lead the line, more a bonus player.

They got away with it last season but they should have sighed a breath of relief and ensured we wouldn't be in that position again.
This. We got lucky last season with Stewart getting no injuries and it was never going to last.
 
Is there a club of similar statue to SAFC to have no centre forwards in their squad? I would doubt it.

Whilst recruitment has generally been very good in terms of the most important part of the team it has to be said that it is negligence in the extreme.

It has killed the momentum the club had going forward which is such a shame. We have invested in recruitment but we have spoilt the ship hot a hapath of tar.
Yeah… that’s right NR. I think the strategy of getting in young players and developing them is fantastic and we have come a long way.
 
Is there a club of similar statue to SAFC in world football to have no centre forwards in their squad? I would doubt it.

Whilst recruitment has generally been very good in terms of the most important part of the team it has to be said that it is negligence in the extreme.

It has killed the momentum the club had going forward which is such a shame. We have invested in recruitment but we have spoilt the ship for a hapath of tar.

Hopefully it can be put right finally in the summer.
But we have got a centre forward in the squad
 
Lay any money half the moaning wet blurts on here never went to games the last few years like. f***ing crying on cos we're not gonna have chance to be in the promised land next season.

" but but but we're gonna miss the playoffs" in the manner of a kid who's just had his crayon broken.
 
Personally I trust the model, I think if you look at how things have gone in the last 2 seasons you'd be daft not too. So I wouldn't want them to just sign any old striker and go outside of the model.
Not even a loan to see us through to the end of the season? I’m not sure how many loans we are allowed but surely it could have been classed as an emergency saying as we didn’t have anyone else at the club to fit that position.
 
Yeah… that’s right NR. I think the strategy of getting in young players and developing them is fantastic and we have come a long way.
Aye But for a hapath of tar…
But we have got a centre forward in the squad
A young kid who has hardly played a game of man’s football and is not a target man and therefore not fit for purpose.
 
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Not even a loan to see us through to the end of the season? I’m not sure how many loans we are allowed but surely it could have been classed as an emergency saying as we didn’t have anyone else at the club to fit that position.
Apart from the centreforward we signed on loan to the end of the season do you mean
 
Lay any money half the moaning wet blurts on here never went to games the last few years like. f***ing crying on cos we're not gonna have chance to be in the promised land next season.

" but but but we're gonna miss the playoffs" in the manner of a kid who's just had his crayon broken.
Grow up and take safc coloured spectacles off. This is genuine debate and I have been a season ticket holder for a lot of years by the way.

You can still love the club but recognise when they get it wrong and we have got it wrong when it comes to striker recruitment, badly wrong.
 
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