Haven't seen a thread on this yet. Ryanair tolerates racism

[monkeytassle]

What caused the argument in the first place? Seems like most of the story is missing from that article.

This has been my overriding point all along

 

[scott934]

A black woman's seat was next to a racist old fucker and he demanded she move and Ryanair did fuck all about it

Aye before that mate. Why was he being called a smelly tramp and she being called an ugly, black cow? Seems to have escalated fairly quickly, I'm wondering why.

 

[monkeytassle]

A black woman's seat was next to a racist old fucker and he demanded she move and Ryanair did fuck all about it

That's not quite accurate is it

 

[errant]

That's not quite accurate is it

ive not heard an alternative narrative yet, other than loss of male white privilege or some other bollox

 

[Harry Angstrom]

You can dislike it as much as you like. Given that Ryanair did nothing at the time of the incident, nothing when the plane landed and nothing afterwards, I can imagine how productive any complaint or action by the old lady or family would have been without any evidence to back it up.

You happy that individual incidents of people being filmed and judged by the Great British Public on the internet? Given your views on the public I'm surprised.

 

[Cockney Mackem]

You happy that individual incidents of people being filmed and judged by the Great British Public on the internet? Given your views on the public I'm surprised.

I don't think the judgement of the public affects Ryanair either way. On the other hand, the evidence helps the person who has a complaint about what happened

 

[Harry Angstrom]

I don't think the judgement of the public affects Ryanair either way. On the other hand, the evidence helps the person who has a complaint about what happened

I was commenting on the publication and vilification that happens in these cases not the filming that my help a case or complaint.

 

[Keawyeds]

That's not quite accurate is it

ive not heard an alternative narrative yet, other than loss of male white privilege or some other bollox

Interesting...

 

[scraff]

I thought they dealt with it with a minimum of fuss and kept the plane on schedule. What would be the point of delaying the aircraft?

To inconvenience and punish a disgusting twat by making him find his own way home.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

To inconvenience and punish a disgusting twat by making him find his own way home.

 

[MackneyHackem]

Imagine defending someone who called a black woman an "ugly f***ing ****" and a "f***ing black bastard".

 

[monkeytassle]

Imagine defending someone who called a black woman an "ugly f***ing ****" and a "f***ing black bastard".

Not one person on this thread has defended him.

 

[Mackem00]

Imagine defending someone who called a black woman an "ugly f***ing ****" and a "f***ing black bastard".

I'm not sure they are defending him. Just imagining scenarios where it would be acceptable to say such things. Fuck knows what kind of scenario that would be mind.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

I'm not sure they are defending him. Just imagining scenarios where it would be acceptable to say such things. Fuck knows what kind of scenario that would be mind.

Hackney in 1970s

 

[Cockney Mackem]

I was commenting on the publication and vilification that happens in these cases not the filming that my help a case or complaint.

How would this be progressed if the only way to get Ryanair to take notice was to publish the video?

 

[errant]

Hackney in 1970s

V.true! Thankfully society has progressed to 2018.

 

[MackneyHackem]

I'm not sure they are defending him. Just imagining scenarios where it would be acceptable to say such things. Fuck knows what kind of scenario that would be mind.

"We don't know what happened beforehand", as if it matters.

There's always a good enough reason to kick off at someone, but I'd argue that calling an old black woman "a black..." anything is never justifiable.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

How would this be progressed if the only way to get Ryanair to take notice was to publish the video?

I'm not sure the national public humiliation of an individual, who may or may not be challenged, is the way forward. Most of these videos that go viral are modern day stocks for people who haven't been convicted of a crime. You seem happy for people to be subjected virtual mob justice.

What would being progressed mean? Compensation? Re training of all staff on race hate crimes? Mandatory chucking off of planes if people start arguing?

 

[Market Where?]

"We don't know what happened beforehand", as if it matters.

There's always a good enough reason to kick off at someone, but I'd argue that calling an old black woman "a black..." anything is never justifiable.

To be fair he could have gone all Churchillesque when she called him smelly - "I may be smelly madam but you are black and I can always have a shower".

 

[monkeytassle]

"We don't know what happened beforehand", as if it matters.

There's always a good enough reason to kick off at someone, but I'd argue that calling an old black woman "a black..." anything is never justifiable.

To reiterate, nobody is saying that. Context when it comes to accusing a company of tolerating racism and a 20 second video is fairly important.