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Harry Kane


Sporty said:
Nor will you read about the fact there were more goals per game scored back then due to various reasons ;). I'm not saying Greavsie isn't one of the best as he certainly was. Though to compare goals records from different eras isn't a true reflection of the difference as you've just done. For starters they played 4 games more per season, around 10% so over a career that's a few more games played and therefore more goals. If Kane had 10% more goals then he'd be on 220 goals so 130 odd behind.

With the 38 game seasons, Kane would have to play another 5 full seasons after this one to play the same amount of games as Greavsie. Greavsie's 517 appearances would take at least 14 seasons to complete as a player would need to play 37 games a season to get 518 appearances. That alone is something of a feat for a striker these days as they either don't play as long a career or have been abroad a few seasons (see Aguero/Henry below). What people don't consider is what percentage of all the goals scored in a season that a player has scored. For example if 1,000 goals are score and a player scores 30 goals then he's scored 3% of all goals. Comparing Kane and Greavsie is closer than what you'd think as the last sentence of the copy n paste below from another thread explains the numbers.

Greaves got 0.69 Goals Per Game (GPG) and Shearer got 0.51 GPG so not marginally better in that particular comparison. Kane currently on 200 goals in 304 PL appearances so 0.66 GPG. It's very close to Greaves ratio (10 goals behind) which in this day and age is exceptional and in the top 10 GPG of all time top division goal scorers.

Football is a different sport now and it's hard to compare stats given the evolution of the game has changed considerably. One difference being the total goals scored in a game was considerably higher until the late 60/start of the 70's. I think this may have been due to subs first being used, initially to swap just 1 injured player in 1965/66 and then tactically in 1967/68 (
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). Interesting read that link and it's mad to think that it was 1987 when they could use 2 subs, whereas now it's 5 subs from the 9 subs on the bench, will be 12 for the World Cup!

When Greaves started playing there were a load more goals per game and in 1962 for example it was 3.73 GPG with an average of 3.29 GPG from 1957-71. Over a 380 game season that peak would be over 1,400 goals and the average would be just over 1,250 goals. Since the PL started it's been between 2.45 and 2.83 which is 931 goals to 1,072 goals so a lot less than the 1,250 and 1,400. During Kane's period it's an average 2.74 GPG at around 1,041 goals a season so 25% less goals or 209 less goals.

That doesn't mean Kane has scored 25% less goals as forwards score more goals than defenders, as do the top teams so in theory more of those 209 extra goals would go to forwards of top teams. Out of interest I've checked to see what percentage of goals scored by a player of the total of the season goals. Ignoring his Norwich season of just 3 games, Kane has scored 1.95% of all league goals scored and ignoring Greaves 2 poor final seasons at West Ham, it's 1.87% of goals scored. Or another way to look at it, Kane scores every 51st goal in the PL and Greaves was every 54th goal in the old 1st Division. Overall from Shearer's first decent season in 1991/92 he got 1.74% and every 57th goal.

This table is from Wiki and is players with a ratio of 0.60 GPG. Again, bear in mind that the further back you go, chances are more goals were scored in games back then and that that a goalscorers percentage of overall goals scored may well be different as it is with Kane and Greavsie.

PlayerYearsGoalsAppsRatio
Dixie Dean1924–19383103620.86
Dave Halliday1925–19332112570.82
Jack Bowers1928–19391862550.73
Jimmy Greaves1957–19723575160.69
Hughie Gallacher1925–19382463550.69
George Camsell1921–19392333370.69
Vic Watson1923–19362032950.68
Thierry Henry1994–20121752580.68
Sergio Aguero2011–20211842750.67
Arthur Chandler1925–19352033090.66
Harry Kane2012–2003040.66
Ginger Richardson1928–19461782690.66
George Brown1921–19352403660.65
Harry Johnson1919–19312013130.64
Gordon Hodgson1925–19402884550.63
Stan Mortensen1946–19591973170.62
Harry Hampton1904–19222193570.61
George Elliott1909–19251983270.61
Joe Bradford1921–19352484100.60
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One name to pay attention to
 
Fair to assume he'll band in another 5-7 before the end of this season.5 more reasons even @ 11 goals a season wad do it,and as the teams pen taker probably only looking at 1 in 4 from open play.Only injuries or a move abroad could stop him.
 
The lad obviously thinks along the same lines as the OP, and as a flash in the pan decided to rent his house in case things don’t pan out.

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