Hand Ball....


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Bullshit.
It's not bullshit at all. They can use their arms and hands and make themselves bigger playing the ball to hand card. Like I keep saying they aren't daft, there's loads of gamesmanship goes on in football and this is one of the biggest ones. I honestly can't believe you think it's impossible to not handle it.
 
My example happen all the time man:lol: You always see people standing half a yard offside not interfering with play when people score long range efforts.

I will ask you one more time. Do you believe it should be up the official to deem whether a player is interfering or should offside be offside no matter what the scenario?
Problem with leaving it up to individuals is a variance of results.
If you have a definite black and white scenario it can also produce silly actions.

problem with offside now, is that how can the linesman see the kicker kick the ball and at that split second look along the line. even alan shearer said that this morning on GOS.

Problem with refereeing is that the organisations don't explain directions given to the officials to the general public. hand ball is one such case. If it were to be explained we the fans could become more educated and see where the referee is coming from. no point in having secret rules. we and the media could be slating a linesman and referee but they have followed their directions to the core.
 
I give up, you only take the referees part in every debate, I'm beginning to think that you're challenged in some way or other so I'll just leave it at that.
Try having a debate with your carer, they have my sympathy.

Wow:lol:

I have answered you question but you are quite clearly trying to avoid mine:lol:

I have made my position quite clear when it comes to handballs and offsides clear as fuck throughout this thread. All I want now is to get your position on the subjects. Like trying to get blood from a stone:lol:
 
It would be utterly ridiculous that man, you would simply have people attempting to chip the ball against someones hand when in and around the box
Utter bullshit, the rule has not changed to my knowledge and I can never remember this happening. The'interpretation' of the law has changed and the need for television pundits to voice their opinion has led to the utter confusion we have now.
 
Wow:lol:

I have answered you question but you are quite clearly trying to avoid mine:lol:

I have made my position quite clear when it comes to handballs and offsides clear as fuck throughout this thread. All I want now is to get your position on the subjects. Like trying to get blood from a stone:lol:
What game was it last weekend where a ball was played to a player in a clear offside position and he knew he was, he lifted his foot and let the ball run on to his marra on the wing who then played it into the box to the aforementioned player who had turned and ran into the box and scored.
The defenders have no chance
You did not answer this specific example that I gave you, you avoided it as you know it's crazy.
You can answer now if you would like.
 
So you're saying if defoe was standing half s hard offside on the right side of the pitch while Johnson slammed in a 40 yard screamer from the left hand side then the goal wouldn't stand as Defoe was offside?
Yes, George McCartney comatose by the corner flag playing an opposition player onside years ago, deemed to be interfering with play. Same should apply to an attacker, guess what,nit used to! Defenders could then defend.

As long as the player who is offside doesnt touch the ball I cant see a problem

Now answer my point please
Bullshit
 
You did not answer this specific example that I gave you, you avoided it as you know it's crazy.
You can answer now if you would like.

You have picked one example and are using it to try and denounce a change of rule that by and large has worked really well. I can only assume in that scenario the ref judged the player wasnt interfering with play. You either give the ref the right to judge whether a player is interfering with play or not or you end up with ridiculous scenarios where goals are chalked off because a player who is nowhere near play is half a yard offside. Yes, as always sometime refs will get things wrong but in the main it has worked very well

Yes, George McCartney comatose by the corner flag playing an opposition player onside years ago, deemed to be interfering with play. Same should apply to an attacker, guess what,nit used to! Defenders could then defend.


Bullshit

You would be quite happy to see a goal chalked off when a player who is nowhere near interfering with play is half a yard offside? For example long range shots going in but a forward who is 20 yards away from the original shot being half a yard offside?
 
I am for one am pleased off side rule changed a little,the game now sees more goals and more entertainment for it and that can only be a good thing,surely people don't want to see a 40 yard volley ruled out for a player standing offside near the corner flag.

Watching George Graham's Arsenal playing the offside trap to perfection and winning games 1 0 was horrible to watch.
 
I am for one am pleased off side rule changed a little,the game now sees more goals and more entertainment for it and that can only be a good thing,surely people don't want to see a 40 yard volley ruled out for a player standing offside near the corner flag.

Watching George Graham's Arsenal playing the offside trap to perfection and winning games 1 0 was horrible to watch.

Trouble is people focus on the odd thing when a ref may have got it wrong when it comes to the interpretation instead of looking at the bigger picture of a rule change that has by and large worked really well
 
I really cant get my head round why anybody wouldnt think that exact same thing tbh:lol::lol:
Well because the games fast and and it simply wouldn't happen. You're going on as tho they'd have time to run into the box, put their foot on the ball and do a delicate dink onto someone's hand. It's absolutely absurd to suggest what you're suggesting.
 
Well because the games fast and and it simply wouldn't happen. You're going on as tho they'd have time to run into the box, put their foot on the ball and do a delicate dink onto someone's hand. It's absolutely absurd to suggest what you're suggesting.
No it's not. It happens all the time when atteckers have the ball at their feet around the box, still with the defender standing off waiting for the attacker to make a move.
 
Well because the games fast and and it simply wouldn't happen. You're going on as tho they'd have time to run into the box, put their foot on the ball and do a delicate dink onto someone's hand. It's absolutely absurd to suggest what you're suggesting.

What you are suggesting is f***ing crazy man

To claim a penalty should be given when a player blasts the ball from a yard away at someone hand is f***ing cloud cuckoo land stuff

How is a player suppose to defend when all he is worried about is making sure his arms are out of sight so the ball cant be blasted off them
 
What you are suggesting is f***ing crazy man

To claim a penalty should be given when a player blasts the ball from a yard away at someone hand is f***ing cloud cuckoo land stuff

How is a player suppose to defend when all he is worried about is making sure his arms are out of sight so the ball cant be blasted off them
Same way they always did before ball to hand became so popular. Do you really think attackers are more concerned about hoofing the ball off someone's hand rather than scoring ?
 
Same way they always did before ball to hand became so popular. Do you really think attackers are more concerned about hoofing the ball off someone's hand rather than scoring ?

I think they will be if you ridiculous rules ever came in

You could have three or four quick ricochets in the box that results in the ball grazing someone hand. Things like that shouldnt be given as penalty's ffs
 
I think they will be if you ridiculous rules ever came in

You could have three or four quick ricochets in the box that results in the ball grazing someone hand. Things like that shouldnt be given as penalty's ffs
Well I know it would work and if you'd played the game before you wouldn't be going on about waddling round the box and doing golf chips. I'm bored but enjoyed the debate, off to watch the match now so have a good day.
 
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