Grealish - Not Taking a Penalty


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Well personally I'd rather have my best penalty takers taking a pen rather than ones not as good who played a good proportion of the match.

I can understand his reasoning. But every decision is made on balancing of odds and in training a) you've been playing football for at least an hour before practicing penalties and b) there's no pressure

I would've rather the lads who's had a bit more time on the pitch and calmed their nerves stepped up. Not going to give Southgate any real stick over it because every decision he's made this tournament and had certain people questioning him, I've given him the benefit of the doubt that it's made based on way more than the general public get to see and we've played class.
 
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1. Kane
2. Shaw
3. Rashford
4. Maguire/Stones/Henderson if he was still on
5. Grealish

no need to be putting Sancho and Saka in that position at all. Baffling.
I'm surprised Pickford didn't take one. He looked confident as owt when he scored his last one.
 
I'm fucked off. Not with the loss, but the way in which the vast majority of people are dealing with it.

We should be glad we got so close - Praising the players and throwing an arm around them.

Instead we get Southgate out polls and idiots racially abusing the players on twitter and people genuinely blaming the same f***ing team that got us there.

I'm done.
 
Sky Sports News should shut the fuck up and close their Twtter account, I had the misfortune of sticking it on for 10 minutes the other day and they were reporting from Rome about how unfair it was that we had played most of our games at home.
Well Italy won it so it wasn't that unfair afterall.
They probably forgot to mention that we only played most of our games at home because Brussels and Dublin dropped out as host cities.
I'm fucked off. Not with the loss, but the way in which the vast majority of people are dealing with it.

We should be glad we got so close - Praising the players and throwing an arm around them.

Instead we get Southgate out polls and idiots racially abusing the players on twitter and people genuinely blaming the same f***ing team that got us there.

I'm done.
I don't think it helps that the media choose to focus on the morons rather than the majority who are supportive of what both the manager and the players have achieved.
 
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Southgate has been class for England IMO but some of his decisions last night were pathetic, including the penalty line-up. I don't care how good he is in training, a 19 year old who has never taken a pen in his pro career should not have been taking the 5th pen last night.
I'd have taken that pen instead of that kid given the opportunity last night and I'd had a drink.

He should have been nowhere near it.
 
He shouldn't have to defend himself, as he should have been on after about 60 minutes (IMO at the expense of Mount) when we were being overran in midfield and we perhaps wouldn't have been at the stage of taking penalties.
 
True. Mind you at times last night it seemed like they were capable of keeping the ball going as long as they liked. Mancini has a hell of a squad there and the way they play is a total change from the traditional Italian style.

Individually they aren't that good imo but they have a strong midfield 3 who can control the game. They sort of have to play a different way than we are used to because the players they have a suited to that style rather than it being a Mancini thing. Not sure if there has been a change at youth level to start bringing more players like that through or to focus more on those types of players.

Last night every time they made a sub they got weaker which is what helped us stem that flow they had when they were well on top whereas we had players on the bench better than what was on the pitch, and in some cases didn't even use them.

Sterling, Kane and Mount is a stronger front three on paper than Insigne, Immobile and Chiesa but all 3 for us barely turned up in part because we don't use them. Italy are the opposite.

Italy this tournament have been far from a possession side but we fell to pieces and let them do what they wanted.

Throughout the tournament we've used spells in games to reserve energy and gone from pressing to sitting deep. Last night we barely pressed at all after 20 mins. Kane spent most of the game in his own half just walking about in the same 10 yards of grass making no effort to do anything at all out of possession. It all just played into their hands.
 
We should be glad we got so close - Praising the players and throwing an arm around them.

Instead we get Southgate out polls and idiots racially abusing the players on twitter and people genuinely blaming the same f***ing team that got us there.

I'm done.

We shouldn't be happy for getting close :lol: - I appreciate you're a mag and that's how you think, but getting close isn't good enough.

I'm not saying it's not an achievement, but I'm not 'glad' we got close.

Southgate deserves to come under scrutiny as to why he made the decisions he did. A lot of them were off.

I'm not convinced the racial abuse is all it seems - a quick look at the account names and a lot are bots. Russian meddling. It needs investigating but to assume these are English supporters at this stage is idiotic.
 
Sky Sports News should shut the fuck up and close their Twtter account, I had the misfortune of sticking it on for 10 minutes the other day and they were reporting from Rome about how unfair it was that we had played most of our games at home.
Well Italy won it so it wasn't that unfair afterall.

Sky News is even worse.
News in general has digressed into biased opinionated propaganda now. The whole lot of it needs to binned off.
 
I'd have taken that pen instead of that kid given the opportunity last night and I'd had a drink.

He should have been nowhere near it.

As soon as I saw Saka was taking it I knew he'd miss. Poor bastard.

As someone mentioned before, I'd genuinely rather have had Pickford taking it, never mind Grealish or Sterling. It's just poor management I'm afraid.
 
We shouldn't be happy for getting close :lol: - I appreciate you're a mag and that's how you think, but getting close isn't good enough.

I'm not saying it's not an achievement, but I'm not 'glad' we got close.

Southgate deserves to come under scrutiny as to why he made the decisions he did. A lot of them were off.

I'm not convinced the racial abuse is all it seems - a quick look at the account names and a lot are bots. Russian meddling. It needs investigating but to assume these are English supporters at this stage is idiotic.
The mags are a strange bunch. Success to them was getting relegated just because their Lord and savoir Rafa was the gaffer.
 
Sven brought on Carragher to take a pen in 2006. He did score but he took it before the ref blew the whistle, missed the retake.

Tim Krul came on in the last minute for Holland in 2014 and saved a few pens as Holland progressed.
 
GS failed badly last night, was always on the cards though. Glad that players like Grealish are calling Keano and him out, left unsaid and it appears that GS had no alternative but to choose the likes of Saka for a penalty kick. Favorites spring to mind.

When he made Saka his first sub that was the begining of the end, lots more astablished talent on the bench but a bit clueless in how to utilise it.

Put Mancini in his shoes and we end Euro Champs.
 
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