Grant McCann - Hull



East Yorkshire City said:
A lot of fans have never forgiven McCann for the way we were relegated in 2019/2020. Off the top, I’ve seen 7 relegations in my life (even rock bottom of Division 3) and that was the worst. Yes they were mitigating factors, but it was unbelievable the way they surrendered.

McCann did restore himself partially last season. But, even up to March, most fans wanted him sacked. I think most other clubs would have sacked him on a few occasions but he seemed tight with the Allams: this was hardly endearing.

Even now, looking at forum polls, most fans wanted him sacked. A few have made a volte face in view of last two results, which were great (slightly fortuitous at AFCB as they should have been home and hosed by half time but that’s football). He plays good football, but can lack tactical pragmatism (strong rumours that the old regime forced him to play 4-3-3)

Yes, he’s done well in part this season, and I’d have given him longer – no doubt, we’re far from safe and sacking him is a risk. But, sentiment aside, the vast majority of fans wanted rid of the Allams for so long, we’re willing to support it. Apparently, the his compo package and his fate has been known to him since last year (takeover has been dragging on for ages).

As for the new owner, I’ll remain quiet until we have clarity. There are plans for a decent senior management set up, and whilst I’m a little indifferent to the 20 or so names that we’re supposed to signing from Europe, I’ll wait and see. As for Arveladze, unfortunately, it doesn’t inspire me, but again, we’ll wait and see.

As for McCann, he’ll get a good League 1 job and do well. He’ll be in demand I’d imagine. He’s only 42 and still learning. He also seems like a decent person.
Best of luck to him and it may well come back to bite us.
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Interesting take on it. In context, sounds like a lot of fans won't be bothered he's been sacked. However, to the wider football world it looks a strange decision and Hull being 10 points clear of relegation this season is an achievement whichever way it's looked at. Seems to me to be a 'be careful what you wish for' situation
 
Disco_Pants93 said:
Interesting take on it. In context, sounds like a lot of fans won't be bothered he's been sacked. However, to the wider football world it looks a strange decision and Hull being 10 points clear of relegation this season is an achievement whichever way it's looked at. Seems to me to be a 'be careful what you wish for' situation
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It's just the reason behind his next choice that sets the alarm bells ringing tbh. If he was choosing someone with a proven track record you'd struggle to argue. However, it's tough to see past the possibility that Arveladze is getting the job because he has a personal connection to the new owner. Not a good way to run a club.
 
The Cabbage said:
It's just the reason behind his next choice that sets the alarm bells ringing tbh. If he was choosing someone with a proven track record you'd struggle to argue. However, it's tough to see past the possibility that Arveladze is getting the job because he has a personal connection to the new owner. Not a good way to run a club.
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Must be disappointing for the dressing room too. 2 cracking results and then the manager goes and some no mark comes in. Wonder if he'd have a strong case for unfair dismissal?
 
Sounds like it's a recipe for disaster.
bennett83 said:
The new owner was on talksport and he was comparing the Hull to Istanbul. He's the Turkish Simon cowell apparently. Sounds like a recipe for disaster
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I mean they are not alike in any way :lol:
 
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Well, the Turkish are such incredibly trustworthy and well-spirited folk aren't they (as the families of 1.5m murdered Armenians in WWI will also no doubt attest)?

Disco_Pants93 said:
Must be disappointing for the dressing room too. 2 cracking results and then the manager goes and some no mark comes in. Wonder if he'd have a strong case for unfair dismissal?
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I suspect that a couple of hundred thousand knicker in the sky rocket as a pay-off will stave off any such action.
 
The football league podcast on the BBC, reckened it was only a matter of time, as the Turkish equivalent of Simon Cowell was going to bring in his own people.
Be interesting to see if this is a successful foreign intervention or another sportswashing exercise
 
Are these the new owners who want to turn Hull into a breeding ground for Turkish players? :lol: Imagine being owned by f***ing clowns like that. No better off than they were under the last idiot.
 
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Inside Forward said:
Are these the new owners who want to turn Hull into breeding ground for Turkish players? :lol: Imagine being owned by f***ing idiots like that. No better off than they were under the last idiot.
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No. Under the Allams we were under a manged decline and governed by spite. It was joyless, with loads boycotting since the name change debacle started.

We'll judge the new regime when the dust settles and their intentions crystalise.
Grumpy Old Man said:
Good luck on him getting the work permits. The Turkish League doesn't bring many ranking points with it.
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That is what I would have assumed, but not according to 'one of your own', Phil Buckingham:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1484174630843604995
 
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I was amazed he managed to keep his job given the way they surrendered their way to relegation in the 19/20 season. That's 18 months more work than even he probably thought he'd get, so fair play.
Disco_Pants93 said:
Must be disappointing for the dressing room too. 2 cracking results and then the manager goes and some no mark comes in. Wonder if he'd have a strong case for unfair dismissal?
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I wouldn't say Shota Arveladze was a no-mark like. Had a very decent playing career.
 
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