Gone off again in... France


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Behave man, I wish people would stop bigging these clowns up. There's not a scar between them, or a drop of blood, a bunch of slapping tarts. :lol:

Agreed. I'm sick of hearing about how these ultra hard Russians lived in the wastes of Siberia for 5 years, wrestling bears and training diligently for the day they'd go across to the euros with their weapons, matching outfits, mouth guard and MMA gloves and are some kind of elite fighting machine.

From what I've seen they're a bit mental but largely just a bunch of wankers walking around in a shitty uniform, smacking people when they massively outnumber them and, when the numbers have been anything like equal, they've either wanted no part of it or the pissed up English lads have defended themselves fairly well. They're not impressive in any way, shape or form, they're embarrassing, cowardly thugs. If that's as macho as they get in Russia I'm amazed the Ukraine hasn't f***ing annexed them. I could put on a tap out t-shirt, wear a pair of gloves, bang in a mouth guard and kick the fuck out of some lass then run away when her fella turns up. It doesn't make me an elite fighter, it makes me a cunt. They'd be getting a hard on if they knew how much people were bigging then up. They're just sad wanker hooligans, nothing more

Strange that after 2 days of listening to pissed up fans bellowing about military prowess in World War Two, amongst other things, the French police didn't fancy donning some riot gear and getting in the way of the Russian muscle men they knew were in town and looking for the English

It's tough for any genuine bystanders caught up in it, but I suspect sympathy will be in very short supply in France for the reasons you just mentioned.

So basically because some daft lads sang some daft songs the police might not have been arsed about doing their job and preventing innocent people from potentially being murdered, nice.
 
A different account:


The very end is interesting, but worth watching all the way through.
Amazing how putting a few captions can completely change the perception of what's actually happening.

I saw this before in it's entirety with no captions and made a few judgements on what I was seeing. Then I watch this and ended up pissing myself laughing at the spin they were trying to put on it. I can't be arsed to go through it chapter & verse, but if you want a brief 30 second summary watch from 5'40" in where we are told "English fans protect injured local" to see a 20 plus stone fat bald bloke, no top on and Adidas shorts bent over. If he's a local, I'm Jean Claude van Damme.

We then see a blood soaked older fella sat on a stretcher being looked after by the pollis with the caption "Injured Civilian". I'll let this one pass as it's tricky to judge one way or the other with this bloke, but skip forward to the next scene and we see what to me is a completely innocent black lad holding up his phone taking pictures when out from a cloud of tear gas steps a biggish lad who knocks him out stone cold with a single punch. We are then told this is when a "Russian gets dropped". The lad was wearing an anorak, carrying a shopping bag and is just stood there. And he's black. Again if he's a Russian, stick a feather up my arse and call me Nancy.

I feel sorry for the lad, he's cops it square in the mush and hits the ground like a sack of taties.
 
It's a good post mate but you're over egging the pudding there which is exactly the response these cretins are seeking. I'd guess as many people were hospitalised after a single derby game at Roker. I can't recall the year (1968?) but I well remember the carnage. Chisels, darts, hammers used and then thrown into the crowd, mayhem.

I wasn't born until 1980 so that's a bit before my time but it probably is over egging it a bit. I was really thinking about the way 5-10 of them are laying into one person and keeping kicking them when they're down. Walking up behind someone and hitting them full force over the head with a chair/metal bar etc.

Either way it's a massive difference to our daft lads over there getting drunk and singing stupid songs, which is always embarrassing but nothing close to what these Russians are there to do.
 
Agreed. I'm sick of hearing about how these ultra hard Russians lived in the wastes of Siberia for 5 years, wrestling bears and training diligently for the day they'd go across to the euros with their weapons, matching outfits, mouth guard and MMA gloves and are some kind of elite fighting machine.

From what I've seen they're a bit mental but largely just a bunch of wankers walking around in a shitty uniform, smacking people when they massively outnumber them and, when the numbers have been anything like equal, they've either wanted no part of it or the pissed up English lads have defended themselves fairly well. They're not impressive in any way, shape or form, they're embarrassing, cowardly thugs. If that's as macho as they get in Russia I'm amazed the Ukraine hasn't f***ing annexed them. I could put on a tap out t-shirt, wear a pair of gloves, bang in a mouth guard and kick the fuck out of some lass then run away when her fella turns up. It doesn't make me an elite fighter, it makes me a cunt. They'd be getting a hard on if they knew how much people were bigging then up. They're just sad wanker hooligans, nothing more



So basically because some daft lads sang some daft songs the police might not have been arsed about doing their job and preventing innocent people from potentially being murdered, nice.

Spot on. What's the bet the same crews are well up for a spot of "queer bashing". The irony, it's all so self referentially post modern. ;)
 
Strange that after 2 days of listening to pissed up fans bellowing about military prowess in World War Two, amongst other things, the French police didn't fancy donning some riot gear and getting in the way of the Russian muscle men they knew were in town and looking for the English

So the French police decided to not protect their city and innocents in it, because of a few easily ignored songs? Massive accusation. I think they're maybe incompetent but I don't think they're as bad as you suggest.
 
There just political ponces marra

Don't want to upset UEFA


No russians arrested for any violence, 2 russians arrested for invading the pitch, its exactly as you say Hank, f***ing cock suckers the lot of them, read this shite

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36523861

Russian fans instigate indiscriminate violence in which they:
-routinely beat up innocent bystanders
-hospitalise multiple English
- are caught on video smashing furniture off the heads of people trying to flee
- seen acting in groups of up to 10 against one other bloke, before repeatedly stamping on his head when he's on the ground (seen 4 different examples of this happening)
- carry weapons, gum shields, MMA equipment and balaclavas, and storm across segregation into the English section inside the stadium.
-throw a English fan into the harbour after kicking him repeatedly on the floor

Responses to Russian violence:
-UEFA threaten further trouble will see Russian expulsion.
-Zero arrests
-zero Russians jailed
- Russian FA spokesman states '90% of fans go to fight anyway, they are standing up for their country'


-English fans retaliate with bottle throwing after being attacked by a group of 70 Marseille youths on the first night
-some English fans attempt to defend themselves and fight back against repeated waves of Russian attacks.

Responses to English 'violence':

-UEFA threaten further trouble will see England expelled from the tournament
-multiple arrests
-6 English fans jailed (just seen one of the lads fathers on the news, f***ing heartbreaking and disgraceful the way our lads have been set up as the fall guys)
-pretty much every journalist, politician and celebrity has condemned publicly our 'disgraceful and embarrassing behaviour'


This is the most sickening example of double standards I've ever seen. Not a murmur from UEFA regarding locals attacking NI fans, or regarding German hooligans attacking Ukraine fans (clear footage available online of both)

Some Russian fans have even filmed themselves attacking the English using a GoPro for fuck sake.

Is there any danger of our FA growing a spine and sticking up for our fans??


Yes, I also heard Juglugeed crisp wanker and weetabix head condemning our fans last night, they are not all angels but these fuckers need to give it a bit of perspective, f***ing shithouses
 
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Agreed. I'm sick of hearing about how these ultra hard Russians lived in the wastes of Siberia for 5 years, wrestling bears and training diligently for the day they'd go across to the euros with their weapons, matching outfits, mouth guard and MMA gloves and are some kind of elite fighting machine.

From what I've seen they're a bit mental but largely just a bunch of wankers walking around in a shitty uniform, smacking people when they massively outnumber them and, when the numbers have been anything like equal, they've either wanted no part of it or the pissed up English lads have defended themselves fairly well. They're not impressive in any way, shape or form, they're embarrassing, cowardly thugs. If that's as macho as they get in Russia I'm amazed the Ukraine hasn't f***ing annexed them. I could put on a tap out t-shirt, wear a pair of gloves, bang in a mouth guard and kick the fuck out of some lass then run away when her fella turns up. It doesn't make me an elite fighter, it makes me a cunt. They'd be getting a hard on if they knew how much people were bigging then up. They're just sad wanker hooligans, nothing more



So basically because some daft lads sang some daft songs the police might not have been arsed about doing their job and preventing innocent people from potentially being murdered, nice.

Nail on the head marra, the French Police force are f***ing shit. Or there is actually an agenda. Dont start me about our f***ing FA, weasel bastards, politicians, Shearer and jug lugs, licking the authorities hoops and toeing the party line. Its f***ing disgusting what as happened/happening over there
 
No russians arrested for any violence, 2 russians arrested for invading the pitch, its exactly as you say Hank, f***ing cock suckers the lot of them, read this shite

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36523861




Yes, I also heard Juglugeed crisp wanker and weetabix head condemning our fans last night, they are not all angels but these fuckers need to give it a bit of perspective, f***ing shithouses
And the same bunch of wankers have lived off the backs of those very same people...
 
Ah man, get to fuck. Tournament after tournament we bleat on about how the poliss have picked on our poor innocents abroad, how the locals have, how those awful opposition fans have. Never our fault, always the scapegoats.

Utter f***ing turd of the highest order. Pissed up, taking trying to annex a square, abusing anyone that comes into their little corner of England they've taken over, bottles chucked, tables over etc etc etc. Poor little lost lambs my f***ing arse.

Accept we have and always will have a minority contingent that like nothing more than to kick off in a foreign town because the mono brain celled fuckwits never have and never will achieve a single thibg in their brief and unproductive stay on this planet.
This one has seemed a lot different from 1998,2000,2004. Majority of "lads" would be banned and the ones who have went over haven't had a scratch on them. Pissed up louts having a piss up. The Russians did not want to fight lads who wanted it back
And the same bunch of wankers have lived off the backs of those very same people...
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This one has seemed a lot different from 1998,2000,2004. Majority of "lads" would be banned and the ones who have went over haven't had a scratch on them. Pissed up louts having a piss up. The Russians did not want to fight lads who wanted it back

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If its me you meant I have done
 
Fuck the French. Utterly useless, and incompetent handling of the whole situation. No coppers in the stadium on saturday. f***ing bottlers. Any England fans over there need to make there own defenses for Thursday because they'll get zero from the yellow French police, and it's going to go mental again. They can stick their f***ing tournament up their arses.
 
Fuck the French. Utterly useless, and incompetent handling of the whole situation. No coppers in the stadium on saturday. f***ing bottlers. Any England fans over there need to make there own defenses for Thursday because they'll get zero from the yellow French police, and it's going to go mental again. They can stick their f***ing tournament up their arses.

I have a feeling England won't be in the tournament come Thursday.
 
I have a feeling England won't be in the tournament come Thursday.

If there's bother on Wed night, it wouldnt surprise me if the Wales game gets cancelled to be honest. It would be the wrong thing to do of course, but I dont supposed UEFA give a shite about that.
 
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