Gone off again in... France


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They are game as f#ck to be fair. They are on another level to anything we have ever got up to although Im not sure that is something to be proud of. Turning out to a football game in Thai boxing shorts, a gum shield MMA gloves and a knife is the definition of embarrassing. Attacking women and kids is embarrassing, stabbing people and 10 blokes jumping onto an unconscious bloke is embarrassing, throwing bottles at peaceful groups of fans sat in cafes from point blank range is embarrassing.......They could kill 30 English fans and they would still be nowt but low life tossers and second rate hooligans to boot. While I do not agree with it, there has imho always been an unwritten set of rules when it comes to fans scrapping. These animals are literally out to kill people.

They couldn't finish a fish supper. Look at the vids of them "training", or the sneak attacks and "tactical" retreats after attacking pissed up office workers and old men. The fall of Communism has left them struggling to regain a place in the world and this is the best they can come up with.
 
Nope, the Russian media has been a disgrace, defending that shit. Our media has condemned it all from the off.

Our media has condemned our fans for defending themselves.

Tell me mate. If you were not sat pontificating on a message board and instead in France drinking with your mates, and a group of Russians/locals charged at you, would you:

A. Call NATO for help
B. Defend yourself
C. politely reason with the neo nazi thugs.

You see mate, running isn't an option, because it means leaving the people who have had most to drink/elderly behind to take a f***ing hiding.

So your only option is B

People that have been defending themselves are being called worse than shit by people that haven't got a f***ing clue what is going on out there.

Of course you could point out that I'm not there either. You'd be right. But at least my viewpoint is ratified by video evidence and re: the trouble on the first night, supported by testimonies from French bar owners, who state locals caused the issues.

I'd rather not join the ranks of the self hating pseudo intelligentsia on social media, because if those people were in France right now, they'd be relying on the very people they are calling 'disgraceful scum' to protect them from indiscriminate attacks.
 
http://www.thefa.com/

Nothing on the FA website regarding the Russians charging England fans in the ground....However England fans get condemned for their behaviour Marseille... The funny (or not) thing was the FA advice before the game on Saturday was to head to the old port and get escorted by the police upto the ground...however they forgot to add you will get bottles thrown at you by French Algerians, hit with Bats off Russian ultras and tear gas by those very same police who were going to protect you...

People need to take a long hard look at these people running the game....They make millions upon millions of pounds off the backs of those they are condemning..Disgusting...
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/euro-2016-violence-uk-government-statement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36523861
 
Nope, the Russian media has been a disgrace, defending that shit. Our media has condemned it all from the off.
Bit of a massive generalisation there blaming the whole Russian Media. You obviously do not watch Russia Today, i had it on today in the Cafe part of the chippie for a bit. They have condemn it.....massively marra.
 
Our media has condemned our fans for defending themselves.

Tell me mate. If you were not sat pontificating on a message board and instead in France drinking with your mates, and a group of Russians/locals charged at you, would you:

A. Call NATO for help
B. Defend yourself
C. politely reason with the neo nazi thugs.

You see mate, running isn't an option, because it means leaving the people who have had most to drink/elderly behind to take a f***ing hiding.

So your only option is B

People that have been defending themselves are being called worse than shit by people that haven't got a f***ing clue what is going on out there.

Of course you could point out that I'm not there either. You'd be right. But at least my viewpoint is ratified by video evidence and re: the trouble on the first night, supported by testimonies from French bar owners, who state locals caused the issues.

I'd rather not join the ranks of the self hating pseudo intelligentsia on social media, because if those people were in France right now, they'd be relying on the very people they are calling 'disgraceful scum' to protect them from indiscriminate attacks.
Our media hss been fairly unanimous about saturdays violence though. Even the french authorities are blaming the Russians. I've yet to read an article in any paper saying anything else.

Bit of a massive generalisation there blaming the whole Russian Media. You obviously do not watch Russia Today, i had it on today in the Cafe part of the chippie for a bit. They have condemn it.....massively marra.
You haven't got a cafe you stupid tit
 
Our media hss been fairly unanimous about saturdays violence though. Even the french authorities are blaming the Russians. I've yet to read an article in any paper saying anything else.


You haven't got a cafe you stupid tit
It is a chippie with a built in cafe, you self righteous know all.
 
I am not sure how you can blame the FA, do you think they rightly can expect, in a Western European Country, that the police stand by their duty of care to protect the travelling fans as other FA's would our police? Why is the incompetence of the French police the fault of the FA? You seem more bothered about having a pop at the FA and the BBC than the real culprits in this.

So we shouldn't expect the FA to protest if the French authorities can't do their job properly ? and I take it you think its alright that the BBC roll out the same old lines even though it was wrong...Strange
 
I presume you don't use Twitter mate. Every journalist, politician and Celebrity has been slagging our fans off non stop until today.

Until today? They condemned the fans for what happened on Thursday and Friday, but non have for what happened on Saturday? Mind you, you say every journalist, politician and Celebrity has so I suppose you'll be able to give us some evidence that ridiculous statement.

So we shouldn't expect the FA to protest if the French authorities can't do their job properly ? and I take it you think its alright that the BBC roll out the same old lines even though it was wrong...Strange

The FA have condemned it and have said that they are concerned about the security measures in place. And I posted you a link earlier from the BBC which clearly states it was the Russians to blame. You are blaming the FA for giving out pre-tournament advice to fans. Baffling.
 
There's going to be hell on at the world cup in Russia.

The eastern bloc. The Russians. I can't imagine any far right groups there will take kindly to the African nations turning up. England fans wanting 'revenge'. Russian police.

Christ.
 
Behave man, I wish people would stop bigging these clowns up. There's not a scar between them, or a drop of blood, a bunch of slapping tarts. :lol:

They all look rather knackered during the final.. :lol:
Just 4 guys each remaining.
Lech Poznan vs Jungsvolk (CSKA Moscow)

 
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