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I'd really like to know why God helps Christian footballers score a goal (I've seen them say thankyou) but casually takes six years off from 1939 to 1945...a bit suss like.
Clearly his/her gap year(s) bit like how there's no mention of Jesus's teenage and early 20's in the bible
 
Clearly his/her gap year(s) bit like how there's no mention of Jesus's teenage and early 20's in the bible
Yeah, the teenage years...I reckon he smoked fat ones all day and fantasized over what Newcastle Town Centre on a Friday night would look like in 2,000 years. Even a dead Jesus could get a shag there like.
 
Charlie Hebdo would dispute this.

They were still in their right to do it, but there's a line between deliberately insulting to provoke and poking fun.
There's also the other side who could "turn the other cheek" but clearly didn't with horrendous actions
 
I always thought that the whole point in inventing an imaginary friend was that one could have a bespoke imaginary friend. Arguing about the gender of your imaginary friend just seems a bit idiotic to me.

But this is where we are at folks. We are not too bright.
 
I always thought that the whole point in inventing an imaginary friend was that one could have a bespoke imaginary friend. Arguing about the gender of your imaginary friend just seems a bit idiotic to me.

But this is where we are at folks. We are not too bright.

"We" is a bit too generic I think..... :)
 
I always thought that the whole point in inventing an imaginary friend was that one could have a bespoke imaginary friend. Arguing about the gender of your imaginary friend just seems a bit idiotic to me.

But this is where we are at folks. We are not too bright.
Well if people go to a specific church and they have specific teachings then people either agree or just make their own shit up.
 
Calling my first paragraph bollocks doesn't explain why it is bollocks and is in essence a cop out.

For your second paragraph I don't believe you and if you want me to believe you, you will need to substantiate it.

You ignored the fact that Hindus believe in gods which look like them. If you want to believe in a delusion taught you by your parents because of a fear of death and not existing, go ahead. My mam , dad and sister are dead and I am a realist and know they don't exist any more and I will never see them again except in my memory.

Assuming a physicist took time out to explain those things to your total satisfaction how would it change your attitude to the title of this thread ?


In the top 10 countries of the world that account for 47.5% of the world's Christian population, only 12% is Western. The rest are South American, African and Eurasian.


First line under "Abrahamic religions"

Realists tend to have a better grasp of the reality of the subjects they're discussing, in my experience. But anyway, you can add those two real things to your realism.

Hindus believe in God's that look like all sorts of things, there's hundreds of them including multi limbed blue elephants.

Faith is faith. By definition, it can't be proved. People have faith in Sunderland even though its completely irrational. People are more than just facts and proof, that's why religion exists and still exists. People want to have faith in better than this world. And there's no way of proving it wrong in this life.
 
Hindus believe in God's that look like all sorts of things, there's hundreds of them including multi limbed blue elephants.
While that is true much of it is personification, The three main Gods are Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. While I don't believe any of these are actual deities they tend to represent Creator, Preserver/Sustainer, Destroyer. That's the creative force, space and time respectively. Shiva is portrayed as Lord of the Dance (Nataraja) where with one foot he destroys the universe and then with the other recreates it from moment to moment.
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There is also the concept of Satchitanand the ocean of Sat, Chit and Anand - Truth/Reality, Consciousness and Bliss. It is considered that we are rivers returning to the ocean from which we came. No deities or personifications are involved in the concept of Satchitanand.

Then there are those schools that believe in a God identical to the Abrahamic God such as the Sikhs and the Sant Mat movements. Probably because of influences from Sufi (Muslim) sources such as Kabir. Both of these, Satchitanand (Yoga) and Sant Mat are dualistic and believe in a separate God and Soul but Buddhism is a Hindu philosophy and like Jainism is non-dualistic and atheist believing that we never left the ocean and our separation is an illusion. The atheist philosophies believe in neither a god or a soul and see those are attempts by the mind to grasp onto because of its fear of emptiness.

While I doubt that anyone on this forum gives a flying fuck about the Eastern philosophies, the argument is very Euro-Centric as if that was the argument in its entirety when it is not. All that the physicalists (material atheists) have established is that it is unlikely that there is a deity called God who responds to human prayer. Big deal. You don't need to be a scientist to establish that. You just need to look at the endless suffering of children throughout the world in which there is no response to prayer to alleviate that suffering. Yet they act as if they have monopolised truth like no one else before them.
 
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In the top 10 countries of the world that account for 47.5% of the world's Christian population, only 12% is Western. The rest are South American, African and Eurasian.


First line under "Abrahamic religions"

Realists tend to have a better grasp of the reality of the subjects they're discussing, in my experience. But anyway, you can add those two real things to your realism.

Hindus believe in God's that look like all sorts of things, there's hundreds of them including multi limbed blue elephants.

Faith is faith. By definition, it can't be proved. People have faith in Sunderland even though its completely irrational. People are more than just facts and proof, that's why religion exists and still exists. People want to have faith in better than this world. And there's no way of proving it wrong in this life.
These Christians will be on the conservative side and will be on the side of The Holy Father.
 
I wouldn't go to a mosque, church, synagogue or temple and tell the people that their god isn't real. That would be rude.

But on here, and in my general life outside of people's places of worship, I'm perfectly happy to say that the Christian God isn't real, and neither is Allah, Yahweh, Vishnu or any of the rest.
And you're also anonymous on here, so no Fatwa.
I’m not a scientist! I’m not a theist, I’m not a fully committed atheist. That makes me an agnostic?
If you are dislexic and insomniac, that would make you lie awake all night, wondering if there was a Dog.😁😁😁
 
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