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So long as Santa is still regarded a gadgie I’m not fussed, although unsure who is going to travel back in time and alter the bible
 
I’m not a scientist! I’m not a theist, I’m not a fully committed atheist. That makes me an agnostic?
I’d like to think that some things will never be fully explained and proved by science.

Be careful not to mix up The Theory of Evolution (via Natural Selection) with any answer to where life came from.

Evolution is very well understood and there are mountains of evidence, of several different types, to support it. It explains the diversity of species on the planet.

It does not provide, and does not attempt to provide, an answer to where life first came from and how it started.

Believers think that their god (insert name depending on their religion) created life.
Scientists don't have an answer to that question yet but they are working on it. If scientists had answers to every question there would be no need for scientists.
 
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And Moses said unto God “WAD!”
Oldest religion in the world from around 20,000 BCE, Shakti worship - the Mother goddess of sex and fertility. Lead to the development of Kundalini Yoga/Tantric Yoga heavily based on sexual practices and drug use. Every woman is considered an incarnation of the Goddess. I bet they had great sex.
 
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People need to understand this whole god and devil thing was just an ancient way of laws, basically to let people know there would be consequences and rewards for your behaviour.

Now the mass majority know what’s deemed good and bad in civilisation so no need for the imaginary people in clouds.


“Put up with the shit now, don’t complain or raise up and you’ll get your rewards in heaven”
Social control without evidence
 
People need to understand this whole god and devil thing was just an ancient way of laws, basically to let people know there would be consequences and rewards for your behaviour.

Now the mass majority know what’s deemed good and bad in civilisation so no need for the imaginary people in clouds.
"imaginary people in the clouds" :lol:

I agree with you but that will rattle many folk
 
People need to understand this whole god and devil thing was just an ancient way of laws, basically to let people know there would be consequences and rewards for your behaviour.

Now the mass majority know what’s deemed good and bad in civilisation so no need for the imaginary people in clouds.
Human beings knew what was good and bad long before moralistic religion came along.
 
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You'd be intentionally insulting people in their place of worship.
There's room for debate and discussion, but there isn't really it, is it.

I believe there are 3 places for religion.
In your place of worship, in your home and in your head. Anywhere else can do one.



First bit, arguably correct.
Second bit, shut up. Of course it is. Every religion is open for ridicule.
But, what is more respectful and actually better at getting your point across, is reasoned debate, rather than saying "Your religion is made up bollocks".
Might be true, but it won't get people round to your way of thinking will it.

Charlie Hebdo would dispute this.
 
Wonder how they'll change the first line of the Lords Prayer...?
There's been people interchanging God's pronouns for at least the last century in various branches of theology. Especially among liberation theology, the branches which have given a voice principally to the people most affected by colonial spread of Christianity in Latin America.

The common way to do it is just say whichever "mother" "father" "He" "Her" etc.

Dosent matter because if you believe in God, God isn't a human and is not limited or contained by the things humans are such as gender or sex. The only way to get it wrong is to insist on a fixed definition. It's a relational device and nothing more.
 
There's been people interchanging God's pronouns for at least the last century in various branches of theology. Especially among liberation theology, the branches which have given a voice principally to the people most affected by colonial spread of Christianity in Latin America.

The common way to do it is just say whichever "mother" "father" "He" "Her" etc.

Dosent matter because if you believe in God, God isn't a human and is not limited or contained by the things humans are such as gender or sex. The only way to get it wrong is to insist on a fixed definition. It's a relational device and nothing more.
Almost all Gnostic systems of the Syrian or Egyptian type taught that the universe began with an original, unknowable God, referred to as the Parent or Bythos, or as the Monad by Monoimus. From this initial unitary beginning, the One spontaneously emanated further Aeons, being pairs of progressively 'lesser' beings in sequence. Together with the source from which they emanate they form the Pleroma, or fullness, of God, and thus should not be seen as distinct from the divine, but symbolic abstractions of the divine nature. The transition from the immaterial to the material, from the noumenal to the sensible, is brought about by a flaw, or a passion, or a sin, in one of the Aeons.

In most versions of the Gnostic mythos, it is Sophia who brings about this instability in the Pleroma, in turn bringing about the creation of materiality. According to some Gnostic texts, the crisis occurs as a result of Sophia trying to emanate without her syzygy....

The Sophia resides in all humans as the Divine Spark.



This is an interesting concept and correlates to the Buddhist concept of the Dhyani Buddhas and their consorts manifesting as emanations from the original Dharmakaya or void leading eventually to materiality.

It's also similar to Hindu theology in which the individual human being is considered as the negative feminine energy that seeks to unite with the positive masculine energy of the divine.

I feel Theological concepts may be beyond the scope of this thread though.;)
 
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But religion gave us a code to go by.
If it was as simplistic as you make out then there wouldn't have been multiple schisms and interpretations within every religion, nor would the world still be overwhelmingly religious
 

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