George Orwell's 1984
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Loved day of the triffids
I thought it was absolute bollocks when I first read it and actually laughed out loud.
It would make to cry to read it now.
Partly because of how stupid I'd feel but mainly because of how sadly accurate it is.
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Orwell wasn’t fond of semi colons either.
Aituk7
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It's a fascinating book with all of the subtle nuances you can re-read it and rethink certain elements over and over again. It certainly holds ideas and propositions that fit in with todays society further than just big brother spying on you as well.
Animal Farm as well was a fantastic book and if you haven't read it I would highly recommend you do, on the bare face it identifies the problems within stalins soviet union but it quite eloquently demonstrates the issues thrown up by identity politics and how the political spectrum is more a circle, you can go so far left wing that you start to look and act quite like the traditional far right.
Both fascinating, both incredibly clever.
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He put the gory details in the book’s appendix.True, that was an operation that went badly wrong
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My all time favourite book. Must have read it 10 times by now.
The Muffin Man
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Nah, my own version of new speak innit
I think the "truth" likes somewhere in between and in different parts of the world its different too i guess.....Hitlers Nazi Germany is probably as close as we have got to the Power for powers sake ideology at all costs to be protected at all costs i guess. I havent read Brave New World but will definitely give it a go now.....Your synopsis suggests that there is a lot of what you say in our lives but also there are undoubtedly elements of "The Party" in our lives too, particularly in terms of our movements, the way our every purchase, move, who we contact, what conversations we have is monitored.
Fascinating topic for sure.
Brilliant line, can't decide if Obrien was pure evil or simply accepting of the inevitability of his situation. Similarly was Wnston not happier once he just accepted the way things were? Does trying to question a system that will never change and you have little influence over really help or does it just frustrate you or make miserable (that goes for today too)
On the reading list
You have just read it?
Try Escape from camp 14. I think you'll like that, if you can't get a hold of it let me know and I'll help you out
Sadly yes, never been a big fiction reader tbh....Its worry how many similarities there are to my view of the world that was developed independently of having read it lol
Imagine if Orwell had access to the smb politics forum, feck me he would have been written off as a fruit loop, nazi, liberal leftie snow flake and probably all in the same day
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ReidysLeftLug
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Nah, my own version of new speak innit
I think the "truth" likes somewhere in between and in different parts of the world its different too i guess.....Hitlers Nazi Germany is probably as close as we have got to the Power for powers sake ideology at all costs to be protected at all costs i guess. I havent read Brave New World but will definitely give it a go now.....Your synopsis suggests that there is a lot of what you say in our lives but also there are undoubtedly elements of "The Party" in our lives too, particularly in terms of our movements, the way our every purchase, move, who we contact, what conversations we have is monitored.
Fascinating topic for sure.
Brilliant line, can't decide if Obrien was pure evil or simply accepting of the inevitability of his situation. Similarly was Wnston not happier once he just accepted the way things were? Does trying to question a system that will never change and you have little influence over really help or does it just frustrate you or make miserable (that goes for today too)
On the reading list
Sadly yes, never been a big fiction reader tbh....Its worry how many similarities there are to my view of the world that was developed independently of having read it lol
Imagine if Orwell had access to the smb politics forum, feck me he would have been written off as a fruit loop, nazi, liberal leftie snow flake and probably all in the same day
Fiction is one of the most accessible ways to expand the mind
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Lexingtongue
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At college they had us reading Tess of the f***ing d'Urbervilles.
The Muffin Man
Winger
At college they had us reading Tess of the f***ing d'Urbervilles.
Aye read it it, actually quite enjoyed it and later went to see it on stage in London. Sad I know.
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Lexingtongue
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Jesus, I hated that book. Thought it was dull as dishwater. When I became a teacher I was baffled when I found out there was a list of books they could choose from and our lecturer decided that was the best one to have 17-year-olds read. What a chore and have a deep loathing of Hardy since.
Jesus, I hated that book. Thought it was dull as dishwater. When I became a teacher I was baffled when I found out there was a list of books they could choose from and our lecturer decided that was the best one to have 17-year-olds read. What a chore and have a deep loathing of Hardy since.
He's an acquired taste for sure, but I think studying a book for school/college kills the enjoyment a lot of the time. Far too much emphasis on themes and allusions and forgetting that the bloody thing was meant to be read and enjoyed
Aituk7
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Absolutely! That thing in animal farm about some being more equal than others is so pertinent. The idea that communism would work just of "I" was in charge of it. Dangerous stuff... predicted years ago by a geniusNah, my own version of new speak innit
I think the "truth" likes somewhere in between and in different parts of the world its different too i guess.....Hitlers Nazi Germany is probably as close as we have got to the Power for powers sake ideology at all costs to be protected at all costs i guess. I havent read Brave New World but will definitely give it a go now.....Your synopsis suggests that there is a lot of what you say in our lives but also there are undoubtedly elements of "The Party" in our lives too, particularly in terms of our movements, the way our every purchase, move, who we contact, what conversations we have is monitored.
Fascinating topic for sure.
Brilliant line, can't decide if Obrien was pure evil or simply accepting of the inevitability of his situation. Similarly was Wnston not happier once he just accepted the way things were? Does trying to question a system that will never change and you have little influence over really help or does it just frustrate you or make miserable (that goes for today too)
On the reading list
Sadly yes, never been a big fiction reader tbh....Its worry how many similarities there are to my view of the world that was developed independently of having read it lol
Imagine if Orwell had access to the smb politics forum, feck me he would have been written off as a fruit loop, nazi, liberal leftie snow flake and probably all in the same day
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Winger
I read it every couple of years, I have a well thumbed paperback I've had for years, I like to read it and others to remind myself why I hold all authority in such distain - Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, Burgess's The Wanting Seed, Ballard's High Rise etc - all a bit bleak - I read Wells and Wyndham and such as an anitdote
mickeymoor
Central Defender
Work for the security service after the war and fought in Spain to defend a democratically elected government sadly died to early of tuberculosis a real hero and a Great Britain
Just picked it up again for the first time since O Level. Forgot we'd left Europe and become part of Oceania
royalmush83
Midfield
Just some sort of airstrip for the yanks iirc?
