Botchie
Striker
That doesn't necessarily mean me. However I have no reason to explain any further to you.you said you have first hand experience of alcohol addiction
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That doesn't necessarily mean me. However I have no reason to explain any further to you.you said you have first hand experience of alcohol addiction
2nd hand experience then botchieThat doesn't necessarily mean me. However I have no reason to explain any further to you.
aye i know hank mate, its a slippery slope i have come very close to at various points in me life tooUnfortunately I do though
2nd hand experience then botchie
aye i know hank mate, its a slippery slope i have come very close to at various points in me life too
I know what you mean, for me once i start on it even if its just 6 cans after work, i drink the next day then the next and i cant break the cycle this can go on for two or three weeks at a time, until i break the cycle. Most of them.nights i end up pouring cans down the sink so i dont have them.in the house for the next day but i just end up buying more and doing the sameMy own fault is me but I'm like a ticking time bomb were the demon drink is concerned
I can easy just have a couple of pints but then something will happen in my private life then boom I'm back on the hard stuff
I know what you mean, for me once i start on it even if its just 6 cans after work, i drink the next day then the next and i cant break the cycle this can go on for two or three weeks at a time, until i break the cycle. Most of them.nights i end up pouring cans down the sink so i dont have them.in the house for the next day but i just end up buying more and doing the same
My own fault is me but I'm like a ticking time bomb were the demon drink is concerned
I can easy just have a couple of pints but then something will happen in my private life then boom I'm back on the hard stuff
If i have a good 20 pint blast on a saturday it can out me off for a week or so. I sometimes do that just to stop drinking but when i blackout and cant remember anything my paranoia and anxiety goes through the roofMy main vice is the deadly three hammers or other stong cider cause it's so flaming cheap
Seen me have some right benders on it plus the cahos I cause is unreal
The hangovers I get off them should put me off fir life but it doesn't
If i have a good 20 pint blast on a saturday it can out me off for a week or so. I sometimes do that just to stop drinking but when i blackout and cant remember anything my paranoia and anxiety goes through the roof
No he a washed up waste of a life
Wasn't half as good a player as what people make out, the blinkers are always on when gascoigne is mentioned
What are they mate?
Is that a medical fact or is he just a typical NE bloke who enjoys a drink but has endless opportunity and funds together with a lack of self control?
Unless you have proof that he has a diagnosed medical condition you're doing exactly the same as anyone else who's passing judgement without the full facts.
Gascoigne was an absolutely astounding player. We probably never had three better players in the England team at the same time when we had Gascoigne, Beardsley and Waddle. Gascoigne was capable of staggering creative play, but he also knew how to produce the passes that his team mates could cope with, even when those passes were ridiculously inventive. It is easy to forget what a truly amazing player he was and reduce his career to one goal against Scotland. In the preceding game to that he played an incredible pass to McManaman that I have never seen before or since. With the ball at his feet he could send the best players in completely the wrong direction. He could the ball and inch in front of an opposition midfielder's toes, and then trick them into running away from where he sent the ball, taking in two defenders at the same time. He could pass the ball to a striker, make a run deliberately to knowhere, but make it look just enough dangerous to drag the opposition defenders out of position and give the striker a clear hot on goal. He was a player that developed his talent out of obsession mixed with crushing instability that resulted in such magnificent play on the pitch. I would put him in a category with Le-Tissier, Beardsley, Waddle and a teenage Wayne Rooney as the absolute best that we have produced since we won the World Cup.
He has been diagnosed as having bipolar disorder. He has publicly said that he also suffers from chronic obsessive compulsive disorder, which he has described manifests in certain rituals and counting, and repetition and has got in the way of him getting on with basic tasks. He has lost his liberty several times due to being sectioned under the mental health act. He has mentioned that he started having serious problems when he was still a kid after a child that was in his care was run over and died.
The thing I find sickest about the Gascoigne situation is how the press hang on to him milking his state for all they can. When the News of the World phone hacking case came up, Gascoigne testified that he lost several friends and relapsed due to thinking he had been betrayed by them when it turned out that the paper was stealing his messages. He explained that he started to develop paranoia because he could not understand how they were getting information about him, and he started to lose his already loose grip on reality. They should all just leave him alone. If you have been sectioned you should be protected from the Press and their attempts to create a 'death dive' narrative. The day that Gascogine dies it will be a huge payday for the Press scumbags. Gascoigne has little hope of recovery while he has the Press keeping his profile high and they pander to keeping him in the public eye.
I remember Danny Kelly saying on his radio show years ago "Please, if you see Paul Gascoigne out, don't buy him a drink. Don't let him buy you a drink. Everywhere he goes, someone wants to buy him a drink. He is an alcoholic and can you imagine what it is like trying to recover from that when everybody knows you and wants to buy you a drink?"
He has been diagnosed as having bipolar disorder. He has publicly said that he also suffers from chronic obsessive compulsive disorder, which he has described manifests in certain rituals and counting, and repetition and has got in the way of him getting on with basic tasks. He has lost his liberty several times due to being sectioned under the mental health act. He has mentioned that he started having serious problems when he was still a kid after a child that was in his care was run over and died.
The thing I find sickest about the Gascoigne situation is how the press hang on to him milking his state for all they can. When the News of the World phone hacking case came up, Gascoigne testified that he lost several friends and relapsed due to thinking he had been betrayed by them when it turned out that the paper was stealing his messages. He explained that he started to develop paranoia because he could not understand how they were getting information about him, and he started to lose his already loose grip on reality. They should all just leave him alone. If you have been sectioned you should be protected from the Press and their attempts to create a 'death dive' narrative. The day that Gascogine dies it will be a huge payday for the Press scumbags. Gascoigne has little hope of recovery while he has the Press keeping his profile high and they pander to keeping him in the public eye.
I remember Danny Kelly saying on his radio show years ago "Please, if you see Paul Gascoigne out, don't buy him a drink. Don't let him buy you a drink. Everywhere he goes, someone wants to buy him a drink. He is an alcoholic and can you imagine what it is like trying to recover from that when everybody knows you and wants to buy you a drink?"
It's quite possible that he suffers from all kinds of mental problems, it's just that they always seem to appear when it's convenient, usually before or during court appearances.
I seem to recall one incident when he'd been arrested for being mortal while driving. He went to court, was warned he'd most likely go to jail and was arrested the day after for being in possession of cocaine. When he was supposed to go back to court for sentencing he conveniently checked into rehab and was given a suspended sentence in his absence. This has happened more than once and makes me a little suspicious tbh. Whether it's racist abuse, assault, wife beating, drink driving, assault, drug abuse or whatever there's always a handy clinic to pop into until the heat dies down.
As far as I know he's never been diagnosed, in the UK, by a non-profit reputable organisation ...... correct me if I'm wrong which I may be.
He has been sectioned several times, which means that he has been certified by the State to have a mental health condition severe enough to warrant taking his liberty to prevent harm to himself and others. It is ridiculous to claim that Gascoigne is putting on getting sick to avoid court appearances. He has been consistently displaying the symptoms of mental illness throughout his career. A lot of the time when people get sick they start behaving in terrible ways. His delusions and paranoia have clearly got worse as his life has gone on, and it has manifested in a wide range of behaviour that might be intimidating to others, but most often is just harmful to himself.
Andy Townsend has described that when they were playing for 'Boro, one day Gascoigne arranged for them to meet at his house. When Townsend got there, some bloke opened the door and said Gascoigne was in the living room. When he got there, Gascoigne was sitting bollock naked, with the fire roaring, complaining that he was too hot. Then he was just watching a horse race on the TV, not saying a word. Townsend just said "hello" sat down and watched the race. Gascoigne was getting more and more agitated as the race went on, and at the end he went mental, screaming that he'd just lost £20,000 on the race. At the time Townsend just put it town to Gascoigne being Gascoigne. The more he knew him, the more he just though Gascoigne's bizarre behaviours were just who he was. The sad fact is that a lot of people thought Gascoigne's illness was actually just his character. If he had been seen by a doctor then, I suspect they would have had him referred for proper mental health care, and he might have been able to avoid some of the problems he has got overwhelmed by.
And, having been examined by state psychiatrists deemed well enough to be released without having to undergo any treatment other than 3 day detoxes or whatever.
Why do you think these professionals would allow a seriously mentaly ill person to just walk away?
I'm not after an argument, it's just that people keep saying how seriously ill he is but the doctors appear to disagree.
And if 'as you say' he was so obviously 'displaying the symptoms of mental illness throughout his career' why didn't you, or anyone else, notice?
TBF I'd rather take the word of trained psychiatrists over the likes of Andy Townsend.
You clearly are after an argument. Before you go any further, please feel free to cite the names of all these imaginary psychiatrists you are talking about that say that Gascoigne does not have any mental health problems. You won't be able to, because they do not exist. You are claiming that there are no professionals that have said he is mentally ill, when you are plainly wrong as sectioning requires a professional to put their name to the temporary loss of liberty because they believe there is a mental health problem putting the patient at risk of causing harm to themselves and/or others. Being sectioned does not mean you are locked up until are deemed to have no mental health problems. You seems to be completely ignorant of the basic facts or how the system works, and you are determined to put Gascoigne's problems down to him just trying to get away with bad behaviour. You are categorically wrong.
No I'm not ffs.
You're putting one point of view and I'm putting another, isn't that exactly what a forum is about?
Have I been abusive to you, have I laughed at your posts, have I derided your opinions?
I'm just asking you sensible logical questions ..... if you have to start being aggressive and confrontational then it's pointless trying to debate with you.
Dear me, someone doesn't agree with you and that automatically means they're after an argument ...... bloody grow up man.
You're actually incorrect in your understanding of 'sectioning' but I won't waste my time on someone who has such a poor attitude.
By the sound of it you appear to know him personally which is fair enough.
I'm not sure, though, why he needs to 'take the edge off life' ....... he lived his dream of being a top player for his country and is rich enough never to work again.
He has limitless free time to travel, see the world and has the goodwill of thousands of people.
But, as I've said, you seem to know him so I'll take your word he's tormented every minute of the day.
Oh .... you forgot the cocaine abuse btw.
He witnessed a lot of deaths and misery growing up that affected him, and told a kid with asthma he could play football no bother and the kid ended up dying on the pitch not long after - Gazza always blamed himself for that.
You seem to be implying that I am deriding you and being abusive to you personally, which I am plainly not. All I am doing is explaining why you are clearly wrong and why suggesting Gascoigne is putting on his mental health problems is completely without foundation. If you take that as personal abuse and derision and being confrontational then I think it is you that needs to have a think about what a forum is about. You will find that I repeatedly remind people that a forum is by definition about people having a range of opinions. You are completely entitled to have your opinion, and I am completely entitled to explain why your opinion is completely and utterly wrong. I have not been abusive to you at all. End of story.