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No I'm not I'm stating certain facts that if you imagine that it was you in his shoes it would tear you up.
If it wouldn't then I feel sorry for you.
"He had it all thrusted on him when he was mentally ill to start with which is like hoying petrol on a fire."
You're just guessing mate ..... you've no idea what his illness might be or when it started.
I've discerned it from the quality of your remark.
I think you're very uncomfortable with men expressing their feelings and vulnerabilities, especially in public(not uncommon even in these enlightened times), and therefore judge them as weak and "letting down the side", rather like the member who regards it as behaving like a girl.
Do you now admit he may have an illness? Not that I can be bothered with this ridiculous thread anymore...good day
Be a man! Never admit you have emotions and vulnerabilities and always conceal them! Crying is disgusting in men and a sign of effeminacy! No wonder he was crying like that when playing at a team of southern softies!
Through your alcoholism did you do ridiculous amounts of charity? Help people any people when you are in rehab? Even in rehab gazza became a mentor to many people, but like you say botchie you have first hand experience of the disease so he must be an arsehole, a bigger one than you?I have first hand experience of alcohol addiction. Gascoigne is an arsehole, end of.
Through your alcoholism did you do ridiculous amounts of charity? Help people any people when you are in rehab? Even in rehab gazza became a mentor to many people, but like you say botchie you have first hand experience of the disease so he must be an arsehole, a bigger one than you?
Dunno pal pissedWhat was that?
Dunno pal pissed
When he made a funny noise and said ' I'm away to get me suit measured '!Was that the one where he kept sticking his tongue out? Apparently when he scored the free kick he ran to the Spurs bench shouting 'he only tried to fuckin save it'
He was wound off the clock for the final, iirc the Spurs medical staff had to give him a sedative to help him sleep but it clearly didn't work as he should have been sent off for nearly killing Gary Parker before he crippled himself trying to break Gary Charles (??) leg.
I'm not ashamed, I just don't give the bloke shitHe helped you didn't, nowt to be ashamed about mate ..... just let it all out![]()
He can't see a reason to stop whilst he's drinking. He couldn't if it slapped him in the face, the only thing that means anything to him is his next drink. He'll be waking up every morning scared to death of something he can't name, he'll have to have a drink just to be able to get himself down the shop, to get more drink. He'll feel ok for a while, then he'll get anxious and scared again so he'll drink more, you seeing a vicious circle here ? While he's drinking he can't stop himself. It's insidious, it's evil and it's one of the most difficult addictions to break. Some of us are fortunate enough to go on the occasional two day session, stop, and feel a bit rough for a while. Some of us are plunged into a black hole that we can't see a way out of, even those without underlying mental health issues. It's not as cut and dried as you think my friend.He doesn't care about anyone enough to stop drinking imho . It's like he has no reason to stop , he only cares about himself .
I've had my own problems with stuff like that. I stopped what I was doing because I knew it was effecting others , I don't feel he cares enough about anyone to stop . Get what you're saying though and completely respect it .He can't see a reason to stop whilst he's drinking. He couldn't if it slapped him in the face, the only thing that means anything to him is his next drink. He'll be waking up every morning scared to death of something he can't name, he'll have to have a drink just to be able to get himself down the shop, to get more drink. He'll feel ok for a while, then he'll get anxious and scared again so he'll drink more, you seeing a vicious circle here ? While he's drinking he can't stop himself. It's insidious, it's evil and it's one of the most difficult addictions to break. Some of us are fortunate enough to go on the occasional two day session, stop, and feel a bit rough for a while. Some of us are plunged into a black hole that we can't see a way out of, even those without underlying mental health issues. It's not as cut and dried as you think my friend.
So while accusing me of being judgemental, you have managed to judge me. I don't have a problem with alcohol and never have had one. Well done for being brave enough to post that from the comfort of your own home. No doubt somebody such as yourself who has all of these outstanding qualities, is able to hold their head high.Through your alcoholism did you do ridiculous amounts of charity? Help people any people when you are in rehab? Even in rehab gazza became a mentor to many people, but like you say botchie you have first hand experience of the disease so he must be an arsehole, a bigger one than you?
Anyway I'm done here pointless as you come across as the type of person who would argue till the cows come home that the sky is green.
you said you have first hand experience of alcohol addictionSo while accusing me of being judgemental, you have managed to judge me. I don't have a problem with alcohol and never have had one. Well done for being brave enough to post that from the comfort of your own home. No doubt somebody such as yourself who has all of these outstanding qualities, is able to hold their head high.
Unfortunately I do thoughyou said you have first hand experience of alcohol addiction