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The vaccines have worked, look at the hospitalisations and deaths in this wave compared to the first 2. Well done to the nerds imo.
The vaccines don’t work for everyone mate. We’ve still a good chunk of the population haven’t had second one yet too. Not too mention the potential of variations with cases so high

I don’t want a permanent lockdown, I just want the government to stop f***ing it up
 
The vaccines don’t work for everyone mate. We’ve still a good chunk of the population haven’t had second one yet too. Not too mention the potential of variations with cases so high

I don’t want a permanent lockdown, I just want the government to stop f***ing it up
The vaccines essentially make it another flu. It's not gonna overwhelm the NHS at this point so it's time for people to make their own decisions.

No variant has proven to be a vaccine beater yet and there are literally 100s of millions of cases so far, that's worrying over nowt.
 
The vaccines essentially make it another flu. It's not gonna overwhelm the NHS at this point so it's time for people to make their own decisions.

No variant has proven to be a vaccine beater yet and there are literally 100s of millions of cases so far, that's worrying over nowt.
Missing the point mate. Opening up fully with Boris himself estimating we’ll be around 50,000 daily cases is insanity. We’ve all made ridiculous sacrifices in the past 18 months and they’re getting the “herd” they always wanted. We’ve given more “freedom” up than pretty much every country, and this is how we end it. With Covid rampant

And I desperately want this end mate. I haven’t seen my mam or brother for 18 months. My business and industry has been on its arse for most of the time. I simply have a different opinion on how we get to the promised land. Opening with 50,000 daily cases wasn’t it
 
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Missing the point mate. Opening up fully with Boris himself estimating we’ll be around 50,000 cases is insanity. We’ve all made ridiculous sacrifices in the past 18 months and they’re getting the “herd” they always wanted. We’ve given more “freedom” up than pretty much every country, and this is how we end it. With Covid rampant
How fast covid spreads + no masksin packed out student clubs + the fact most students haven’t even had 1 vaccine never mind 2 + however many anti-vaxxers = shit tonne of covid following 19 July
 
The vaccines don’t work for everyone mate. We’ve still a good chunk of the population haven’t had second one yet too. Not too mention the potential of variations with cases so high

I don’t want a permanent lockdown, I just want the government to stop f***ing it up
You would think they could keep in place but reduce the restrictions they had before. The mask thing is the biggest fuck up, it’s not much of a concession to wear one to go and do the things you enjoy and makes the whole situation safer for everyone. I really don’t understand the rush to get rid of those for the sake of a few spoilt brats who don’t like wearing them.

Anecdotal obviously but since they lifted restrictions here many businesses have kept masks as a policy regardless. It’s clear the lifting isn’t being done with public health as the primary concern and people are aware the vaccines aren’t as effective as we were led to believe.

It’s weird because a lot of people have told me they felt we reached a decent level of comfort for most with the outdoor eating and drinking, masks when moving around etc. I’m wondering how many who were happy going out before will avoid it now. I assume those who feel the opposite were already going out anyway so we may see a drop off in business some places rather than an increase. I’m certainly not in any rush to eat and drink indoors with no one masked.
 
Should me masks indoors like. Especially public transport as a lot of elderly and vulnerable use that. Don't see harm in that as well as shops.

Andy Burnham was correct when he said that today. Even BJ and Whittey said they would so just enforce that.
 
Why are the vaccinations taking so long over there?
I think it’s because they chose to do 12 weeks between 1st and 2nd jab rather than 3 in other places. It meant they could get more people some immunity quicker, but would take a lot longer for people to be full vaccinated.

Not sure if this is a problem in the UK but over here they’re talking about a lot of people not getting their second dose, would imagine with a 12 month gap the number of forgetful people or those who can’t be bothered to go back would be higher?
 
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I think it’s because they chose to do 12 weeks between 1st and 2nd jab rather than 3 in other places. It meant they could get more people some immunity quicker, but would take a lot longer for people to be full vaccinated.

Not sure if this is a problem in the UK but over here they’re talking about a lot of people not getting their second dose, would imagine with a 12 month gap the number of forgetful people or those who can’t be bothered to go back would be higher?
I’m in NJ and you can’t swing a dead cat without hitting a vaccination site. Just looked at the stats and as a state we’re 56% fully vaccinated. Masks here are no longer mandatory but a lot of folks are still being as cautious as they can.
 
Missing the point mate. Opening up fully with Boris himself estimating we’ll be around 50,000 daily cases is insanity. We’ve all made ridiculous sacrifices in the past 18 months and they’re getting the “herd” they always wanted. We’ve given more “freedom” up than pretty much every country, and this is how we end it. With Covid rampant

And I desperately want this end mate. I haven’t seen my mam or brother for 18 months. My business and industry has been on its arse for most of the time. I simply have a different opinion on how we get to the promised land. Opening with 50,000 daily cases wasn’t it
Cases don't mean shit if it's not killing people mate, it's not even really hospitalising anyone. Cases are sky high in Sunderland, next to nobody in hospital. If not now, then it's never. Vaccinations will help case numbers because of the viral load (I'm led to believe), but they'll never get cases to zero.
 
..is that not not his name.? Ignore.
You need to clam down fella :) walk to work tomorrow...it will do you the world of good.
Missing the point mate. Opening up fully with Boris himself estimating we’ll be around 50,000 daily cases is insanity. We’ve all made ridiculous sacrifices in the past 18 months and they’re getting the “herd” they always wanted. We’ve given more “freedom” up than pretty much every country, and this is how we end it. With Covid rampant

And I desperately want this end mate. I haven’t seen my mam or brother for 18 months. My business and industry has been on its arse for most of the time. I simply have a different opinion on how we get to the promised land. Opening with 50,000 daily cases wasn’t it
This government never learns.
 
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