I'm not going to forgive him just because we were shite. I'd have said he was a disgrace if we'd won and so just because we were shite doesn't excuse his performance
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No it couldn'tIt was close it could have been given either way.
The fact is it wasn't given, which means he was considered to be on side and therefore the penalty should have been givenIt was close it could have been given either way depending on the linos view.
We shouldn't be letting Friend off the hook either.He was poor but we really should not be letting the team off the hook here.
Exactly, us being shit doesn't excuse his usual incompetenceWe shouldn't be letting Friend off the hook either.
Someone from the public should go public about him, even if it means a fine, to make sure we don't get him again, to make sure he never disgraces the nation at a UEFA or FIFA event (like Poll did), and as a warning to other match officials who find the journey to the North East a little too onerous.
He's way down the list for me. Did he make Fletcher take an age to have a shot? Did he make Johnson give the ball away the way he did for the second goal? Did he make Billy Jones slice every pass he made? Did he make Bridcutt and Larsson completely unable to battle with League 1 players in Centre Mid? Did he make Wickham a complete lumbering fairy?That's not the point though. Regardless of how shit we are it doesn't let the useless prick friend off the hook ffs
Marginal?
WTf
It's either offside or onside ffs
Too right.No he wasn't. Miles on-side.
Should have buried it anyway, but a lot of time and vodka has passed since he gave a shit.
No but that's not what in sayingHe's way down the list for me. Did he make Fletcher take an age to have a shot? Did he make Johnson give the ball away the way he did for the second goal? Did he make Billy Jones slice every pass he made? Did he make Bridcutt and Larsson completely unable to battle with League 1 players in Centre Mid? Did he make Wickham a complete lumbering fairy?
Aye he was/is shite but berating Friend for this is an excuse and lets too many cowards off the hook.
Ah reet. I just think our problems lie closer to home than Kevin Friend.No but that's not what in saying
Everything you are saying is correct. The point of this f***ing thread is how shit friend was. He should never never ever referee a Sunderland game ever again
Again. That's not what I said. Just because our team was shite doesn't excuse friend from criticism.Ah reet. I just think our problems lie closer to home than Kevin Friend.
Here you are Greek this is what I'm on about.18 of our Premier League matches he's reffed, we've lost lost 10. He's shown 6 red cards in those 18 games, 5 of them to Sunderland players
He's a useless biased prick
We should have had a penalty in the first half and they should have been down to ten men
It was a perfect storm.
Shit team, shit players, shit attitude, shit tactics, shit manager, shit pitch and a biased referee.
Your first 6 words are certainly right.
Kevin Friend should be way down on our blame list for today
http://www.worldfootball.net/referee_summary/andre-marriner/sunderland-afc/4/Bishop and Confucius have this spot on, and from what I heard of the Gus interview there are concerns at the club about this biased gonk. I would be very interested to see detailed stats for all his performances, I'm sure this has been brought up before with a more detailed analysis. What concerns me is whether his SAFC stats are out of step with those of any other club that he's reffed. How do his stats compare with those of other refs for SAFC matches. A quick google only produced aggregated stats for ref performances about the basic number of cards, it's hard to believe in this age that there aren't detailed stats available to allow analysis and that the FA/Premier League wouldn't be interested in ensuring the officials in which they place trust are fit and proper to officiate the professional game. Is there any site out there that allows customised queries of ref stats by club/manager to highlight number of cards for/against and win/draw/loss?
Sounds like we weren't good enough today but the influence of an official should not be underestimated.
The way they have been playing lately it looks like Gus has lost the dressing room unfortunately as they don't listen to how he wants them to play, these are the players who at the beginning of the season passed it around no problem and created odd chances now we don't create anything and give the ball awayIn a game on a shite pitch we needed correct blatant decisions and certainly not shite own goals after 3 minutes. We were still shit but we had no breaks today.