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Yes, I genuinely think I can spot diving most times and I think most football fans can - you must watch games and see diving - its even easier to spot at the match than on TV. I would be very happy if the FA came out and said we will book every time you dive and we will get it wrong now and again but its not the refs fault its the cheating players. I remember one World Cup when Germany got 2 players booked for diving in the early rounds. Germany then stopped diving - their manager (Low) had clearly told them to stop because he knew he'd lose players. The FA and FIFA have never, ever had a campaign to stop diving and I believe it would not be difficult to drastically reduce.

As for players not taking up reffing I think you are wrong again. I talked to a bloke who reffed up to Conference level and he said it would not be accepted for players to be 'fast tracked' as the referees association believes you have to start at grass roots and 'earn' your promotion through the leagues - so the 16 year olds you see reffing in the Russell Foster league will be the ones progressing through their slow progress up the leagues - these are the young lads who have never played football. I think if the FA and Refs Association put out a call for ex- players or players who had fallen out the league or not quite made the grade they would get inundated and we would get people into referring who understood far better the game than the current bunch.

I'm afraid you come across as an apologist for a bunch of very well paid incompetents. You haven't refed in the past, have you?

You make a very good point about diving,the problem is the moment one of our players gets booked incorrectly for diving most fans not yourself would call the ref every name under the sun,you obviously see the bigger picture to get rid of diving but most fans just care about what happens on the day.

The only way to stop diving is ban players after watching replays,the FA need to have the balls to do that,simply too hard to spot with one look players too good at making dives look like fouls.
 
.. favourite chant is that 'Shearer is a W@nker' one .. could use it for Friend .. could go something like this ..

.. Kevin Friend's a w@nker he wears the fookin black ..
.. when ever he refs SAFC he is a fookin twat ..
.. he books us on the left wing, screws on the right ..
.. and whenever we have a stonewall, he gives us fookin sh1te ..


.. I know .. but being on me jollies, and the Aussies are partly to blame ..
 
The Friendly one just ruled out a goal (acting as 5th Official) in Basel v. Porto.... seems he made a rare good call...
 
a. Friend sent off the Bradford keeper in the final
b. he's a **** obviously and shit
c. can't believe people are still going on about him
 
Your words were 'it's also the inconsistency of the 'small' fouls within a game', so obviously we're not talking about the penalty. We all know he got that wrong.

Unfortunately, no highlights I've seen have shown the 'lunge' on Graham, so on the one viewing I did have I thought it was quite a strong challenge, perhaps a foul. I don't think the Bradford defender intended on leaving Graham with a bloody face.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:.......you must have been facing away from the pitch FFS!
 
What do you think Friend should have done, out of interest?

It was a clear yellow yard at the very least. The guy came in from behind/side lunging in. Maybe clumsy, but absolutely no effort to play the ball, and a foul which left Graham with a bloodied face. Friend was yards away, and clearly saw it as he gave the foul.

He had no problem waving his card at Seb and Jones for less. (I actually think they were yellow cards, but Friend set his standard...) Also 16 fouls to 8. Really? Bradford were far more "committed" to the tackle shall we say, yet time and time got away with things that Friend blew us up for. No consistency.

As I say, this is not about refs in general. You'll find there's only two I complain about. How any Sunderland "fan" can defend them both is utterly beyond my comprehension to be honest.

Anyway bowing out now, until next month :lol:
 
It was a clear yellow yard at the very least. The guy came in from behind/side lunging in. Maybe clumsy, but absolutely no effort to play the ball, and a foul which left Graham with a bloodied face. Friend was yards away, and clearly saw it as he gave the foul.

He had no problem waving his card at Seb and Jones for less. (I actually think they were yellow cards, but Friend set his standard...) Also 16 fouls to 8. Really? Bradford were far more "committed" to the tackle shall we say, yet time and time got away with things that Friend blew us up for. No consistency.

As I say, this is not about refs in general. You'll find there's only two I complain about. How any Sunderland "fan" can defend them both is utterly beyond my comprehension to be honest.

Anyway bowing out now, until next month :lol:

They are 'defended' for various reasons, not least because some people genuinely believe that they're out to get us.

Anyway, all the best ;)
 
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