France bans the Burka


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Once again people are making a religious and racial issue where there isn't one.

France have banned the covering of your face except on Health and Safety grounds, i.e. Gas Masks etc.

That includes the Bhurka. They don't like it? Tough shit. One law for all. There is absolutely no need for it in Western Society. A Muslim woman can wear a full body garment and head scarf to stop her being "objectified", no need to cover her face. Talking to someone who you cannot see your face is just sheer bad manners.

spot on
 
Fair point. I suppose I was talking in context of Britain.

It's not the government's job to enforce good manners. It'd be very PC of them to try and do that. I understand that many people don't like the burqa, but then many other people don't like football supporters or people drinking alcohol. Banning things just cos people don't like them seems wrong to me. It's very nanny state, so I'm surprised that so many people on here are in support of it. I just can't understand why. It's a mystery. What could it all mean?
 
It's not the government's job to enforce good manners. It'd be very PC of them to try and do that. I understand that many people don't like the burqa, but then many other people don't like football supporters or people drinking alcohol. Banning things just cos people don't like them seems wrong to me. It's very nanny state, so I'm surprised that so many people on here are in support of it. I just can't understand why. It's a mystery. What could it all mean?

have they not been banned for security reasons like?

I reckon they only wear them because ya muzzie ladies are particularly hairy and they use them to keep the flies out of their moustaches.
 
Alcohol is banned in muslim states. Ban their horrible burka here.

Sounds fair to me.
 
Once again people are making a religious and racial issue where there isn't one.

France have banned the covering of your face except on Health and Safety grounds, i.e. Gas Masks etc.

That includes the Bhurka. They don't like it? Tough shit. One law for all. There is absolutely no need for it in Western Society. A Muslim woman can wear a full body garment and head scarf to stop her being "objectified", no need to cover her face. Talking to someone who you cannot see your face is just sheer bad manners.

Is it not possible to accept that it's one law for all, but a very f***ing stupid one and dislike it accordingly?

Incidentally, the niqab has been banned, not the burqa.
 
It's not the government's job to enforce good manners. It'd be very PC of them to try and do that. I understand that many people don't like the burqa, but then many other people don't like football supporters or people drinking alcohol. Banning things just cos people don't like them seems wrong to me. It's very nanny state, so I'm surprised that so many people on here are in support of it. I just can't understand why. It's a mystery. What could it all mean?

I think it's the fact that a lot of people think it is bad manners, a lot has been done for women's liberation in this country and whilst I understand many of them have the choice to wear it, a lot of them sadly don't have that choice. It is a significant security risk given the times we live in.

A lot of people just seem to think it doesn't have a place in Western culture. I tend to agree to be honest. I see no reason for someone to hide their face.
 
I think it's the fact that a lot of people think it is bad manners, a lot has been done for women's liberation in this country and whilst I understand many of them have the choice to wear it, a lot of them sadly don't have that choice. It is a significant security risk given the times we live in.

A lot of people just seem to think it doesn't have a place in Western culture. I tend to agree to be honest. I see no reason for someone to hide their face.

I can't see how it'll be enforcable. If it's the latter then the women are stuck between a rock and a hard place, they'll either get fucked up at home or carted off to to a prison cell for non-compliance.

Stupid law.
 
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I think it's the fact that a lot of people think it is bad manners, a lot has been done for women's liberation in this country and whilst I understand many of them have the choice to wear it, a lot of them sadly don't have that choice. It is a significant security risk given the times we live in.

A lot of people just seem to think it doesn't have a place in Western culture. I tend to agree to be honest. I see no reason for someone to hide their face.

I don't see the need to cut a baby's foreskin off, but respect that other people have customs that are different to my own.

If it's about it being a security risk, then we need to think about banning rucksacks and vans too. But it's not about that. It's about Sarkosy trying to please France's burgeoning right.

I just think it's a really daft law at best, and something that's going to further marginalise a bunch of people at worst. It's almost a reward for intolerance.
 
I don't see the need to cut a baby's foreskin off, but respect that other people have customs that are different to my own.

If it's about it being a security risk, then we need to think about banning rucksacks and vans too. But it's not about that. It's about Sarkosy trying to please France's burgeoning right.

I just think it's a really daft law at best, and something that's going to further marginalise a bunch of people at worst. It's almost a reward for intolerance.


Ding ding ding bingo.

Rightwing leader in unworkable reactionary law shocker.;)
 
haha you wont get an answer to that one

DOES NOT COMPUTE DOES NOT COMPUTE

Nor does the people who usually rail against the PC Brigade and Nanny State supporting a very PC and Nanny State measure.

"Oooh, you can't wear that in case it offends the white people! Best ban it!"
 
haha you wont get an answer to that one

DOES NOT COMPUTE DOES NOT COMPUTE

Except I've presented both sides of the argument perfectly legitimately, as have others...:confused:

Banning the burka isn't going to liberate women from an oppressive muslim society. More meddling where its not wanted from an over involved government.
 
Nor does the people who usually rail against the PC Brigade and Nanny State supporting a very PC and Nanny State measure.

"Oooh, you can't wear that in case it offends the white people! Best ban it!"

It's got sod all to do with political correctness really.

It's about banning wearing things that completely cover your face in public. :confused:
 
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