France bans the Burka


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then shes been brainwashed as its not islamic/in the koran

All religion is a form of brainwashing though, whichever way you interpret the text. "Believing" in something requires a level of either self brainwashing or unthinking acceptance.
 
Straw man argument. You're completely ignoring cultural tradition in this. An equivalent to your argument, in terms of the complexity involved, would be more along the lines of-

The British government decide the best way to keep their security watertight is to devise a new language to be spoken on the mainland, so that noone outside of the UK can understand it, and all citizens of the UK have to learn it too. British people are free to speak British when outside of the UK, but within the UK itself they have to keep to this new secure language. It is proven that this makes the UK more secure.

Would you back the government then?

il just do what you do and answer a question with a question. or in fact not bother at all. always the best way on these tyoe of threads

All religion is a form of brainwashing though, whichever way you interpret the text. "Believing" in something requires a level of either self brainwashing or unthinking acceptance.

should religion take priority over general law?
 
il just do what you do and answer a question with a question. or in fact not bother at all. always the best way on these tyoe of threads

Well you have been tbf. You answered my point by asking me about some ridiculous hypothetical balaclava nonsense in the baking heat of Spain :lol:

il just do what you do and answer a question with a question. or in fact not bother at all. always the best way on these tyoe of threads



should religion take priority over general law?

Religion has no place in the governance of a secular society, but that doesn't mean that a secular government shouldn't respect its populace's freedom to follow a religion if it so wishes.

You're not going to get rid of religion by banning religious symbols. Banning terraces hasn't stopped people standing at football matches. Banning numerous drugs hasn't stopped people from taking them. Prohibition of alcohol in the USA was so successful they legalised booze...
 
Religion has no place in the governance of a secular society, but that doesn't mean that a secular government shouldn't respect its populace's freedom to follow a religion if it so wishes.


Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?p=9769482#post9769482#ixzz1JIrypBcKyou could turn this round mind.

A western woman gogin to Saudi would have to cover her head and wear a long gown.

wouldn't be able to drive and need to be chaperoned everywhere..



when in Rome...
 
Religion has no place in the governance of a secular society, but that doesn't mean that a secular government shouldn't respect its populace's freedom to follow a religion if it so wishes.


Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?p=9769482#post9769482#ixzz1JIrypBcKyou could turn this round mind.

A western woman gogin to Saudi would have to cover her head and wear a long gown.

wouldn't be able to drive and need to be chaperoned everywhere..



when in Rome...

Eh? How does that work as an example. Is Saudi even described as a "secular" society? The good thing about the west is that generally speaking you have freedom to express yourself, be it religiously or otherwise. Its shite that women have to do that when they go to Saudi, because it is a repressive, nasty regime. We should be more like Saudi...er no.
 
Eh? How does that work as an example. Is Saudi even described as a "secular" society? The good thing about the west is that generally speaking you have freedom to express yourself, be it religiously or otherwise. Its shite that women have to do that when they go to Saudi, because it is a repressive, nasty regime. We should be more like Saudi...er no.

Thats where the Burka is derived
 
All religion is a form of brainwashing though, whichever way you interpret the text. "Believing" in something requires a level of either self brainwashing or unthinking acceptance.

brainwashed by men to think its religion, it isnt

its men suppressing women
 
This women protesting in France by strolling around the streets wearing a burka - Any support for her?

Personally i think shes an attention seeking whore. Give her the maximum jail term/fines everytime she flouts the law.
 
Once again people are making a religious and racial issue where there isn't one.

France have banned the covering of your face except on Health and Safety grounds, i.e. Gas Masks etc.

That includes the Bhurka. They don't like it? Tough shit. One law for all. There is absolutely no need for it in Western Society. A Muslim woman can wear a full body garment and head scarf to stop her being "objectified", no need to cover her face. Talking to someone who you cannot see your face is just sheer bad manners.
 
Once again people are making a religious and racial issue where there isn't one.

France have banned the covering of your face except on Health and Safety grounds, i.e. Gas Masks etc.

That includes the Bhurka. They don't like it? Tough shit. One law for all. There is absolutely no need for it in Western Society. A Muslim woman can wear a full body garment and head scarf to stop her being "objectified", no need to cover her face. Talking to someone who you cannot see your face is just sheer bad manners.

Since when have the French being bothered about bad manners?
 
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