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I think you misread me, I haven't at all and agree with you. Secularism and Materialism did away with the popualrity of Christianity in this country decades ago, at least.

I find it distatseful that people however talk about Islam and multi ethnic communities undermining our Christian heritage, when, as you rightly point out, the attitude of the majority of Britain's is very anti Christian. If one is not a practisicing Christian then I don't see why you care about what Islam is supposedly doing to a religion that you don't care about anyway. It's just an excuse to lambast a group you don't like.

Sorry, didn't mean to aim that point at you. It was rather meant as an extension of your point and a general point against what other posters have been saying :lol:

I agree with all of what you've said.
 
I think people should learn about and understand religion rationally. Then we'd have less of this islamaphobia and perhaps less religious people in general. Only a good thing for modern society.

Aye. Education not indoctrination.

The religious folk don't want it though as religion obviously doesn't stand up to rational analysis. Nee one would want to be member. . . .
 
To suggest that this country is losing it's ID is ridiculous.
To suggest that political correctness does not exist is ridiculous.
Same old, same old. Both sides believe they are right and they both are to a degree.
Meanwhile, the world turns.

Political correctness absolutely exists, the PC Brigade does not. There is no group with state powers going around banning nursery rhymes. There are instead a handful of f***ing idiots making pisspotical decisions, then a bunch of organised racist organisations distorting these incidents to stir up hate.
 
I was in East Grinstead yesterday and didn't see anything other than inbred bumpkins and chavery ... could the PC brigade have been camouflaged?

It's very English, apart from the Mormon tabernacle and the Voodoo parlour.

Its quite nice compared to nearby Crawley were my borther used to live. Its in the schools down there which some of the traditions we see up here ie nativity plays are being changed/stopped.
 
Its quite nice compared to nearby Crawley were my borther used to live. Its in the schools down there which some of the traditions we see up here ie nativity plays are being changed/stopped.

Christian traditions. Are you a Christian? I'm not. Neither is Britain, as a society.
 
Do things never change then?

I was basically making the point that there has only been one major British cultural tradition for as long as there has been a Britain, namely, that it has always been comprised of a multude of different cultures. To be British, for as long as there has been a Britain, before that even, has been to be part of a fundamentally diverse culture.

Given this, it is more than a little curious that those talking about the need to defend British cultural traditions see this sort of ethnic pluracy as being as bad, fundaentally un-British thing, when it is really the ONLY OBVIOUS BRITISH CULTURAL CHARACTERISITC.
 
So the students and spavin have now decided britain has no culture so cant complain. Splendid. We're all delighted then
 
So they're not even OUR cultures and traditions then. ffs :lol:

They are now, same way if we dont maintain some of what we see as britains traditions today they will be different in the future for our ancestors. I want my kids to have christmas and easter and share the traditions I do.
 
I know mate. But if we had anything about us we'd take these scumbags off the streets and if they did get any worse, if thats possible then it would give us more ammo against them.

Are you advocating religious war ? :eek:
You got your arse kicked in your last one French king.
Next you´ll be advocating concentrat......oops, err ..internment camps.
 
What's that got to do with anything?

Still failing to see the relevance are you saying we should arm non Muslim dictators too to balance it out?


What's the point you're trying to make here?

My argument is that these things cause global extremism and opposition to the West, not simply 9/11.

My logic isn't that it's ok, it's trying to explain extremism in a way other than "They hate us 'cos of what we are" which leads to thinking Islam in general is to be feared by all. In reality i'm saying that extremism has it's roots in politics, rather than in religion or culture exclusively which has been suggested. No it wouldn't be reasonable to hate people a unified group of people for the actions of a small minority and i'd expect people in a developed nation with entrenched education systems and what we would hope is an enlightened population to see past massive sweeping generalisations. Alas this isn't always the case.

The end.

you ask questions then exclaim "the end". brilliant.

all of the above were contrary to the points in your initial diatribe.

your outlook is unbelievably similar to Tony Blair-you think you have the answer to everything, you have to solve it, you know best and worst of all you think you know it all and have a holier than thou air about it

i'm happy to call an end to this because I'm happy enough to admit that we're not going to see eye to eye and that is a trait of human nature. whether i go and bomb a village or blow up a tube train is also testament to me knowing better and not being a fcknut.
 
Its quite nice compared to nearby Crawley were my borther used to live. Its in the schools down there which some of the traditions we see up here ie nativity plays are being changed/stopped.

Crawley is indeed a cesspit, with more than its fair share of Muslim nutjobs. A town built up to house East End overspill, generations of scummage.

Even if there are adaptations in the schools, the town and surrounding towns and villages remain very English.
 
They are now, same way if we dont maintain some of what we see as britains traditions today they will be different in the future for our ancestors. I want my kids to have christmas and easter and share the traditions I do.

I want Christmas and Easter as well as they're the two best drinking occasions of the year. Well Christmas eve - Boxing day then Good Friday being my personal favourites.
 
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