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fine you're welcome to p1ss off with your ridiculously liberal, everyones cool man, views.

you seem to have tripped up on the fact that all of the evidence you gave can be reversed in the aftermath of 9/11. As they say in popular culture 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Elaborate.

Take all the evidence and show how it reverses in the aftermath of 9/11.
 
Really ? how come we had a leaflet from Sunderland council the other year describing the Xmas lights as Winter festival lights then.................

Are you a Christian? I don't see why you would care about an erosion of Christianity if not. Secularism and Capitalism have been the foremost attackers of Christian tradiiton in the UK. Most people don't want it, and haven't for a while. Nothing to do with immigrant communities. In fact, I would wager that bar the Muslim population, other immigrant communities are MORE Christian than most British folk.
 
Its a fact mate, my brother lives in east grinstead (South of London) and they dont have some of the traditions in schools we still have up here due to the influx of other cultures and the PC brigade out in force.

If you're not a Christian, I don't see why you would care.
 
fine you're welcome to p1ss off with your ridiculously liberal, everyones cool man, views.

you seem to have tripped up on the fact that all of the evidence you gave can be reversed in the aftermath of 9/11. As they say in popular culture 2 wrongs don't make a right.

believe it or not it is ok to have conflicting views on things. there isn't one easy answer...

The arrogant tosser tells everyone his views are fact while denouncing other peoples opinions...

Then complains about the lack of debate. Typical student.
 
Really ? how come we had a leaflet from Sunderland council the other year describing the Xmas lights as Winter festival lights then.................

Did this festival include Eid, Hannukah and / or Ramadan? If it did, I think you can see why 'Christmas' is not an accurate epithet.

If you are implying that Sunderland Council have banned reference to Christmas, then you are mistaken.
 
Its a fact mate, my brother lives in east grinstead (South of London) and they dont have some of the traditions in schools we still have up here due to the influx of other cultures and the PC brigade out in force.

exactly, I am well versed in Happy Eid mubarak
 
Still waiting to hear someone provide me with a quick summary of the British culture and way of life that are under threat? Perhaps you're worried about being able to rack up vast amounts of debt (trust me, that will never come under threat) or your ability to spend money on booze and food (again, fear not, no way will that be taken from you)?
 
Its a fact mate, my brother lives in east grinstead (South of London) and they dont have some of the traditions in schools we still have up here due to the influx of other cultures and the PC brigade out in force.

The PC Brigade don't exist, and it's entire logical that schools would adapt customs to reflect the customs of the children.

I bet £100 that Christmas is the dominant theme though.
 
Still waiting to hear someone provide me with a quick summary of the British culture and way of life that are under threat? Perhaps you're worried about being able to rack up vast amounts of debt (trust me, that will never come under threat) or your ability to spend money on booze and food (again, fear not, no way will that be taken from you)?

And for anyone to explain why the collapse of Christianity and Christian festivals is suddenly so terrible and a collapse of Britishness when it's been going on for most of the century and most people in this country aren't Christian and if anything shudder at the thought of being called such.
 
Are you a Christian? I don't see why you would care about an erosion of Christianity if not. Secularism and Capitalism have been the foremost attackers of Christian tradiiton in the UK. Most people don't want it, and haven't for a while. Nothing to do with immigrant communities. In fact, I would wager that bar the Muslim population, other immigrant communities are MORE Christian than most British folk.

And I don't see why my kids should be force fed other religions and views at school if that's your argument.............
 
Seems to me that those who suggest that "traditional values" are eroded are labelled as thick....but they must have something about them if they managed to make it up in the first place. Unless there is some truth in it.....
 
And I don't see why my kids should be force fed other religions and views at school if that's your argument.............

I was force fed Christianity at school, despite not being Christened. I was also force fed Islam, Hinduism, Judaism etc. in RE too.

I was also exposed to other cultures in Geography and History.

Shocking stuff, I know.

Seems to me that those who suggest that "traditional values" are eroded are labelled as thick....but they must have something about them if they managed to make it up in the first place. Unless there is some truth in it.....

I think if people bothered to state what these traditional values were then we could debate that fact. I've never seen them posted dispute being dragged into 100s of these threads. Unless they don't exist....
 
I was force fed Christianity at school, despite not being Christened. I was also force fed Islam, Hinduism, Judaism etc. in RE too.

I was also exposed to other cultures in Geography and History.

Shocking stuff, I know.



I think if people bothered to state what these traditional values were then we could debate that fact. I've never seen them posted dispute being dragged into 100s of these threads. Unless they don't exist....

So neither the values or the PC lot exist? What is real then?
 
The PC Brigade don't exist, and it's entire logical that schools would adapt customs to reflect the customs of the children.

I bet £100 that Christmas is the dominant theme though.

The pc brigade do exist most Muslims are not offended by Christmas celebrations etc and its embarrassing for them when some busy body decides its offensive.

Britain’s culture and traditions are going out the window, if I emigrated to another country I would embrace and respect the culture of that nation not claim offence or try to change it to suit my beliefs.
 
And for anyone to explain why the collapse of Christianity and Christian festivals is suddenly so terrible and a collapse of Britishness when it's been going on for most of the century and most people in this country aren't Christian and if anything shudder at the thought of being called such.

The fact is, the main erosion of "British culture" actually came, ironically enough, under the Tories in the 80s. The majority of stuff we stood for, produced etc was killed off then. To me, modern Britain is about greed, wealth, aspiration, about as anti-Christian a set of values as they come. Not that secular Britain is inherently Christian, as you rightly point out, but if you want to worry about its erosion then don't blame the influx of other religions or the magical PC brigade.

I've no problem with people expressing their religion, its just laughable that people think that either a) Christmas and the like are under threat when its of such commercial value to the economy or b) that Christmas has anything left to do with Christianity. The Christmas we have now best represents what is British culture and you're right to go out and lavish hundreds of pounds on your family (possibly by racking up debt) is the last thing being threatened. If it was threatened by anything, be it Islam or otherwise, the government would step in.
 
Seems to me that those who suggest that "traditional values" are eroded are labelled as thick....but they must have something about them if they managed to make it up in the first place. Unless there is some truth in it.....

Hudson road school in Hendon stopped the nativity plays, but started to hold Islamic religious holidays and themes, now it may well be that the Bangladeshi kids outnumber the white kids there but it shows that its being eroded, and if they want to show minority religions and cultures more acceptance then surely the Christian faith is the one in the minority in Hudson road school.
 
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