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Yes he did. I can post the video for you if you wish?
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Yes he did. I can post the video for you if you wish?
fyl2u
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Please do.
BigPete
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Not obsessed don't flatter yourself just you post absolute bollocks so people pull you up on it.
So you stated something that was widely reported...
What do YOU know about Chinese investment then?
Fuck all apart from that was widely reported just acting billy big bollocks as usual.
Grumpy Old Man
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Not formally - he's just about to take up a job in South West France.
The Fitter
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The reason they didn't buy before because the "entertainment" on the pitch was terrible and not worth paying for; now it's completely different and every one of our remaining home games will certainly be entertaining, win lose or draw!
Of course it's all about money, consider our on pitch performances like stocks and shares... we do well, people invest to make profit. We are in a good league position, we are hitting form, new players to come in and the best defence in the league? Far fewer risks now than before
Of course it's all about money, consider our on pitch performances like stocks and shares... we do well, people invest to make profit. We are in a good league position, we are hitting form, new players to come in and the best defence in the league? Far fewer risks now than before
OohBaldyBally
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Is he bollocks
Fred Basset
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Opening sentence. ‘We’ve given Ellis £40m’.
They hadn’t given Ellis £40m. Now, that can be called a slip of the tongue, a poorly explained soundbite or however you want to dress it up. He repeated it elsewhere in the early stages. And it was an untruth.
If I’m misquoting him there, then I apologise as my grasp of the English language is clearly not up to scratch.
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OohBaldyBally
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The reason they didn't buy before because the "entertainment" on the pitch was terrible and not worth paying for; now it's completely different and every one of our remaining home games will certainly be entertaining, win lose or draw!
Of course it's all about money, consider our on pitch performances like stocks and shares... we do well, people invest to make profit. We are in a good league position, we are hitting form, new players to come in and the best defence in the league? Far fewer risks now than before
Give over man
Do you think that this billionaire business men are so short-sighted as to be making business decisions on something as temporary as form ?
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Arfa Sleep
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Give over man
Do you think that this billionaire business men are so short-sighted as to be making business decisions on something as temporary as form ?
It was nothing to do with the club being an absolute mess, stripped back to beyond bare minimum. The real issue was the performances
chuckyroll
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Its happening
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In fairness, another poster accused me of misquoting Donald with regards to this in the past and he stuck to his guns that Donald had never said that he’d paid £40m despite this video evidence being presented. I don’t get the levels of loyalty to one man who has barely been at the club for five minutes. It baffles me
Don't be an obsessed prat all your life Petey.
I didn't post absolute bollocks. I posted fact, as did the Everton fan. Surprise, surprise the clueless brigade (including you Mr Big Pete) only focused on my comments. As usual, it is the clueless brigade who are posting bollocks.
BigPete
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lol:You calling someone for calling bollocks... no self awareness amount of times you've made a tit of yourself yet you keep doing it.
You calling someone for calling bollocks... no self awareness amount of times you've made a tit of yourself yet you keep doing it.
Posting stuff that idiots like you don't like is hardly making a tit of myself. I have a number of stalkers who follow my every comment, trying to shoot holes in it. It's pathetic and only serves to make those people look the tits that you would so love me to be.
The Fitter
Winger
If it's Americans, and as result of the new manager/form/massive potential they can double their money in 5 months? More than just form, pardon meGive over man
Do you think that this billionaire business men are so short-sighted as to be making business decisions on something as temporary as form ?
but we are ripe for investment which obvious to any investor.
fyl2u
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My little investigation was taken in good faith, looking at each complaint point by point. Of all the complaints given on my thread (the one titled something like "the first few podcast interviews with the owners" or something along those lines), not a single complaint stood up to scrutiny. They were all misquotes or misunderstandings from the complainant. Every single one.
I'm still open to hearing more of them and interested only in continuing to investigate them from a position of neutrality.
And so I'm keen to see this video someone says they have of SD saying "we have given Short £40m for the club".
The way I understand it (and this might be wrong, but it's how it looks to me) from looking into it this week, it was like this:
There was a deal agreed originally that changed slightly after they took over because certain things turned out not to be exactly how Short had presented them, so they renegotiated the payment plan slightly.
The original deal was supposed to be this:
- Madrox would pay £40m to Short in total: £15m up front, £5m after one year, £10m after two years and £10 after 3 years.
- Ellis had offered them the club for £15m but with a £25m debt, but they said "no, scrub the debt and we'll pay £40m" (which is pretty much exactly the same really but leaves the club itself with no debt, which is better for the club).
When they actually took over, it turned out that the Ndong situation wasn't exactly how Short had presented it. In amongst all the other financial stuff he'd told them Watford were going to be buying him for £8.5m, but it didn't happen, meaning there was £8.5m less coming in, and his wages still going out, which left a £10m black hole in the club's finances compared with how Short had presented them, so they renegotiated with Short to pay the initial £15m in installments: £5m up front, and the other £10m following over the course of the next 4 months.
Now this could all be wrong, and perhaps @Grumpy Old Man could shed some light on this for us if he wouldn't mind?
That's how it seemed to me though.
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