Football isnt diverse enough according to stormzy


Hes on about off the field positions like not on the pitch. For a sport with such diversity in the playing staff it doesn't seem to transfer to coaching or roles in the FA etc.
 
This race baiting shite has to stop. It's beyond parody when successful black people whine about lack of opportunity in entertainment and sport based on race. They're massively over represented as it is. It does race relations no favours at all. If we're going to go down the route of so-called positive discrimination and enforce proper representation in employment, I don't think black people would like the results...

As for the argument that there aren't many black managers, so what? Perhaps not many black ex-players want to be managers? I'd like to see actual evidence that clubs are turning down managerial applicants because they're black.

I notice a lack of Asian managers as well. That's a massive continent with many diverse cultures and ethnicities. We have quite a sizeable Asian population here from as diverse and distant as Turkey to Japan.

People should be employed on merit. Nobody should get or be refused a job because of their ethnicity. It is impossible to do otherwise without excluding people based on race, which is exactly what we don't want to happen. Or is it..?
 
This race baiting shite has to stop. It's beyond parody when successful black people whine about lack of opportunity in entertainment and sport based on race. They're massively over represented as it is. It does race relations no favours at all. If we're going to go down the route of so-called positive discrimination and enforce proper representation in employment, I don't think black people would like the results...

As for the argument that there aren't many black managers, so what? Perhaps not many black ex-players want to be managers? I'd like to see actual evidence that clubs are turning down managerial applicants because they're black.

I notice a lack of Asian managers as well. That's a massive continent with many diverse cultures and ethnicities. We have quite a sizeable Asian population here from as diverse and distant as Turkey to Japan.

People should be employed on merit. Nobody should get or be refused a job because of their ethnicity. It is impossible to do otherwise without excluding people based on race, which is exactly what we don't want to happen. Or is it..?
To your point:
 
I'm sorry but this is absolutely ridiculous, football has to be the most diverse sport in the world and to introduce an initiative where you have to hire a certain % of people based on their skin colour is very dangerous.


Is it though?
figures showed just 6.7 per cent of senior roles in football are taken by black or mixed heritage people
That’s hardly a proportionate representation of ethnicity in the UK now is it? I guarantee that more than 6.7% of UK citizens don’t identify as white.
 
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Is it though?
Yes
This race baiting shite has to stop. It's beyond parody when successful black people whine about lack of opportunity in entertainment and sport based on race. They're massively over represented as it is. It does race relations no favours at all. If we're going to go down the route of so-called positive discrimination and enforce proper representation in employment, I don't think black people would like the results...

As for the argument that there aren't many black managers, so what? Perhaps not many black ex-players want to be managers? I'd like to see actual evidence that clubs are turning down managerial applicants because they're black.

I notice a lack of Asian managers as well. That's a massive continent with many diverse cultures and ethnicities. We have quite a sizeable Asian population here from as diverse and distant as Turkey to Japan.

People should be employed on merit. Nobody should get or be refused a job because of their ethnicity. It is impossible to do otherwise without excluding people based on race, which is exactly what we don't want to happen. Or is it..?
Exactly this
 
Not just applicants but take into account qualifications and ability too.
I'm sure nobody wants someone in a role they are less qualified for than their peers for just because of skin colour or sex right? That would be racist and that's what this is about right?

Their are excellent studies out their that show if 2 applicants with identical CV’s apply for a job- the CV with the non British name is less likely to get to interview. Less likely to get an interview by 25%. So nothing to do with who’s more suited for the job.
 
Their are excellent studies out their that show if 2 applicants with identical CV’s apply for a job- the CV with the non British name is less likely to get to interview. Less likely to get an interview by 25%. So nothing to do with who’s more suited for the job.
Why would a football club be willing to pay a black man millions of pounds a year to play but then not willing to pay them to manage, purely because they’re black? It’s the most backwards, inconceivable notion I’ve ever hear.
 
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Their are excellent studies out their that show if 2 applicants with identical CV’s apply for a job- the CV with the non British name is less likely to get to interview. Less likely to get an interview by 25%. So nothing to do with who’s more suited for the job.
So how would they even Know that info ? or companies have openly gave them that info by saying that they would be less likely to offer an interview or job to a non-British sounding person/name. Yeah right :lol:
 
So how would they even Know that info ? or companies have openly gave them that info by saying that they would be less likely to offer an interview or job to a non-British sounding person/name. Yeah right :lol:
Pretty easy. The person running the study creates and sends the CV’s.
 
So how would they even Know that info ? or companies have openly gave them that info by saying that they would be less likely to offer an interview or job to a non-British sounding person/name. Yeah right :lol:
Probably made up, surely if they were identical the person reading them would click on. Pretty sure most cv screening is automatic these days, so are we saying the software is 'namist'. I mean what is a 'british' name anyway?
 
This race baiting shite has to stop....

As for the argument that there aren't many black managers, so what? Perhaps not many black ex-players want to be managers? I'd like to see actual evidence that clubs are turning down managerial applicants because they're black.

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Did you say something about "beyond parody"?

You are hoying around accusations of race baiting when you admit you don't have a clue about people's ambitions, the barriers that have to be crossed or how Merky FC intends to help.
 
This race baiting shite has to stop. It's beyond parody when successful black people whine about lack of opportunity in entertainment and sport based on race. They're massively over represented as it is. It does race relations no favours at all. If we're going to go down the route of so-called positive discrimination and enforce proper representation in employment, I don't think black people would like the results...

As for the argument that there aren't many black managers, so what? Perhaps not many black ex-players want to be managers? I'd like to see actual evidence that clubs are turning down managerial applicants because they're black.

I notice a lack of Asian managers as well. That's a massive continent with many diverse cultures and ethnicities. We have quite a sizeable Asian population here from as diverse and distant as Turkey to Japan.

People should be employed on merit. Nobody should get or be refused a job because of their ethnicity. It is impossible to do otherwise without excluding people based on race, which is exactly what we don't want to happen. Or is it..?
Isn't that not why he's launching the scheme in the first place? If no black people were interested in non-playing roles in football, then this won't get off the ground.

I really don't see the issue here. Celebrity notices that there's not many black people working in non-playing roles in football (which, whichever caveat you put on it, is true), so uses his fame to launch a scheme to give opportunities to people who wouldn't otherwise have them. Hardly a crime. It's not perfect, but to me this one bloke trying to help, and if it gets a few talented people through the door who wouldn't have been able to previously, then surely it's been worth it?

As I said before, it's quite bizarre that Sunderland fans given the complete lack of talent and competence we've had in non-playing roles for literally decades wouldn't welcome more talented people into the recruitment pool.
 

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