Taffyduck
Striker
Good point,but short is probably thinking he's spent fortunes and gone backwards year on year.It's easy to say that in the short term but will they still be in the division after 7 seasons?
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Good point,but short is probably thinking he's spent fortunes and gone backwards year on year.It's easy to say that in the short term but will they still be in the division after 7 seasons?
so the 12 who are out of contract / loans are ending, How much do you think they are on? Id guess
Westwood - 20k
Bardsley - 30k
Cuellar - 20k
Dossena - 20k
Larsson - 35k
Gardner - 35k
Colback - 15k
Ji - 15k
Ki - 20k
Celustka - 10k
Borini - 20k
Alonso - 10k
so 250k Per week we would be saving which is 13 million per year, that is a lot of room to manoeuvre with, I'm sure if we stay up a few would be offered new contracts / aimed to sign on a permeant deal but if we go down its helped get rid of a lot of high earners
Lets hope there's a few out then. Our wage bill is like a big weight around our neck. It's stifling the club. Ceullar Gardner Vaughan cabral for starters.
I think if we can get money for some of them in this window instead of letting them go for free in the summer we should do it and promote a youth player i.e Larsson and Gardner we still have El Hadji Ba, Cabral and the option still to recall Ndiaye, not to mention Mavrias and DMK, getting rid of Cuellar still means we have Roberge, O'Shea, Brown and Diakite, we could just push Laing and Egan up the pecking order.
I know its not just as straight forward as that but i think we have to be looking to do that but its just a case of does Gus see any of them in his plans.
For me id be looking to tie up a deals for Ki, Colback and Westwood, i would like Borini too but dont think Liverpool would sell... Ji needs more game time because i think he could be a good player in Gus' way of playing
We couldn't give away half those players in the summer so can't see anyone paying money for them now. Even if they would then the players may well refuse knowing they will be in a strong bargaining position as free agents.I think if we can get money for some of them in this window instead of letting them go for free in the summer we should do it and promote a youth player i.e Larsson and Gardner we still have El Hadji Ba, Cabral and the option still to recall Ndiaye, not to mention Mavrias and DMK, getting rid of Cuellar still means we have Roberge, O'Shea, Brown and Diakite, we could just push Laing and Egan up the pecking order.
I know its not just as straight forward as that but i think we have to be looking to do that but its just a case of does Gus see any of them in his plans.
For me id be looking to tie up a deals for Ki, Colback and Westwood, i would like Borini too but dont think Liverpool would sell... Ji needs more game time because i think he could be a good player in Gus' way of playing
I agree, Let Vaughan and Cuellar go for free to any club who will take them and we will not notice they arnt here.I think if we can get money for some of them in this window instead of letting them go for free in the summer we should do it and promote a youth player i.e Larsson and Gardner we still have El Hadji Ba, Cabral and the option still to recall Ndiaye.. getting rid of Cuellar still means we have Roberge, O'Shea, Brown and Diakite, we could just push Laing and Egan up the pecking order.
I know its not just as straight forward as that but i think we have to be looking to do that but its just a case of does Gus see any of them in his plans.
For me id be looking to tie up a deals for Ki, Colback and Westwood, i would like Borini too but dont think Liverpool would sell... Ji needs more game time because i think he could be a good player in Gus' way of playing
I agree. We've had no stability on or off the field. Stick with poyet ( if he wants to stick with us )Its been like that since Keane...he had 13 senior players out on loan....Short came in and had to deal with it.
Trouble is we've bought players who are no better than the last lot....like a revolving door.
Because if they are in danger of going down it will be too late in the summer, you won't get much of a fee but you would get a bit, If say we got 500k for Gardner then we get his wages off our bill and get 500k, they get him 6 months earlierWhy would clubs pay a fee when they can talk to them now and agree a pre contract without one in the summer...............?
Its been like that since Keane...he had 13 senior players out on loan....Short came in and had to deal with it.
Trouble is we've bought players who are no better than the last lot....like a revolving door.
I think it will be players who are ont he fringes and who dont fit his system or style of play. Flecther being the main one. Other than that it is who would be wanted by other clubs.
Why would clubs pay a fee when they can talk to them now and agree a pre contract without one in the summer...............?
I agree, Let Vaughan and Cuellar go for free to any club who will take them and we will not notice they arnt here.
Id look to sell Gardner and Cabral this window and recall alf. If we let those 4 go, even for free and recalled Alf we would be in a stronger position
Yes, just get them off the books, even pay for the taxi. It's crippling us and we've no scope to bring in some quality. Even if they don't want to come here, we've no room on the wage bill.Because if they are in danger of going down it will be too late in the summer, you won't get much of a fee but you would get a bit, If say we got 500k for Gardner then we get his wages off our bill and get 500k, they get him 6 months earlier
In fairness, he'd be absolutely right[DOUBLEPOST=1388756262][/DOUBLEPOST]Good point,but short is probably thinking he's spent fortunes and gone backwards year on year.
Probably the same reason that people thought Arnau would tooI dont know why but i think Cabral could come good!
Best of luck with that then..............you might get the odd one loaned out like Vaughan but you wont get fees for those out of contract in the summer.............Because if they are in danger of going down it will be too late in the summer, you won't get much of a fee but you would get a bit, If say we got 500k for Gardner then we get his wages off our bill and get 500k, they get him 6 months earlier
Many of the problems we now have can be traced back to Drumaville. They spent an absolute fortune and were lucky to get away from the club unscathed.
Mind that's not to say we don't owe them for their initial investment which got us out of the championship. Things only started to go wrong once we gained promotion
Spurs paid 1.5 mil last january for Holtby after signing him to a pre contract agreementBest of luck with that then..............you might get the odd one loaned out like Vaughan but you wont get fees for those out of contract in the summer.............
In fairness, he'd be absolutely right[DOUBLEPOST=1388756262][/DOUBLEPOST]
Probably the same reason that people thought Arnau would too
But nobody wants our shite certainly not on the money we are paying them.Spurs paid 1.5 mil last january for Holtby after signing him to a pre contract agreement
We Sold Campbell last january for 600k and Meyler was sold.
That twat Steve Bruce could at least take Vaughan and Gardner off our handsBut nobody wants our shite certainly not on the money we are paying them.