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He was crap and made the rest of the defenders feel uneasy. This shows the benefit of a settled back four.
 
If Mensah still isn't fit, then we would have to change 3 positions to change things - Onuoha to CB, Bardsley to RB, Richardson to LB.

Do we want to make that many changes?

or play Da Silva
 
I've no confidence in him atm after last night. Continually left his marker and just marked space. We should have lost the game with the last kick because once again he switched off.

Has not got the concentration to play centre.

Anton isnt very good. I'm amazed at how many people rate the lad I think its down to the fact that he is quite comfortable on the ball - he just doesnt defend situations very well.

The problem with that as well is yes he looks decent when actually on the ball, but you just know that he is still gonna just hoof it to the opposition defender at the end of it, even when there is a simple pass on for us to keep possession :evil:

Not good enough, needs flogging before other teams catch onto him and his price drops even more.
 
Is this a wind up?

He was terrible! He has a concentration span of about 3 seconds, his positional sense is woeful & he thinks he is better than he actually is! Did you not see him run under the ball when Turner cleared Cahills chp off the line? Did you not see his awful attempt of a clearance in the last minute to let Beckford in? And IMO he was at fault for their 1st goal, he should of been picking Cahill up. Should never play for us again at CH, he scares me to death!

Think we either have to try Onuoha there or give Da Silva a run?

Let me add to that, that Mensah should play ahead of him with one arm!!!!

Agreed. He's the opposite of Teddy Sheringham- two yards BEHIND in his head.
 
Is this a wind up?

He was terrible! He has a concentration span of about 3 seconds, his positional sense is woeful & he thinks he is better than he actually is! Did you not see him run under the ball when Turner cleared Cahills chp off the line? Did you not see his awful attempt of a clearance in the last minute to let Beckford in? And IMO he was at fault for their 1st goal, he should of been picking Cahill up. Should never play for us again at CH, he scares me to death!

Think we either have to try Onuoha there or give Da Silva a run?

Let me add to that, that Mensah should play ahead of him with one arm!!!!

For the first goal, who should turner have been marking? I thought there was someone at the back post who Ferdinand was picking up?

I thought it was a great run between te centre halves by Cahill with a perfect cross.
 
Ferdinand was dreadful. Really, it was a Nyron-esque performance. When he got caught under the ball for Cahills lob, it was embarrassing defending.
 
Another one who thought he was poor. Switched off far too many times and even his usual "comfort" on the ball seemed to be lacking, we were lucky he wasn't punished further tbh and if Everton had a potent striker on the pitch I'm sure Ferdinand's falibility would have been at some point.
 
Should have blocked Arteta's shot for their second. Also, if it was Bramble and Turner at the back then the ball through right at the end would have been dealt with and Beckford wouldn't have had the chance.
 
Jesus a guy just back from injury hardly any playing time under his belt recently and people rip into him. Give the guy a break and give him chance to get match fit and his form will improve. People on her need to seriously look at themselves.:oops::oops:
 
Why are people so polarised on here? Players are either amazing or shite!

Turner was marking Cahill for their first goal, it was frankly embarrassing how easily he lost him, and doesn't anyone else shit themselves whenever he is on the ball?
Yet people giving him mom?

They both made mistakes last night, but they are both ok players in their own ways.
 
For the first goal, who should turner have been marking? I thought there was someone at the back post who Ferdinand was picking up?

I thought it was a great run between te centre halves by Cahill with a perfect cross.

First goal was Turners fault. Anton was marking back post and there was a player lurking out there which he had to keep an eye on.

Turner let the striker get too far away from him and miss judged his header when the ball came over so he got nowhere near it. Wasn't Antons fault at all.

Anton did leave his player a good few times tho by switching off, which has always been his biggest problem for me.

He wasn't as bad as some are making out, but he kept falling asleep at times.
 
First goal was Turners fault. Anton was marking back post and there was a player lurking out there which he had to keep an eye on.

Turner let the striker get too far away from him and miss judged his header when the ball came over so he got nowhere near it. Wasn't Antons fault at all.

Anton did leave his player a good few times tho by switching off, which has always been his biggest problem for me.

He wasn't as bad as some are making out, but he kept falling asleep at times.
Thats pretty much how I saw the game as well, Ferdinand also made a great block from Yakabu (I think) who turned Turner rather easily in the box late on.

I'm not saying Ferdinand was amazing or anything, but feel he is getting more stick than is justified or at least isn't being praised for the decent things he did.
 
Aside from his sometime monumental mistakes Ferdinand is a decent footballer. Problem is for a centre half I think he is physically weak and prone to being out-muscled. Last night he looked a bit rusty but the problem we have is that the Turner/Bramble partnership is going to be a difficult one to replace over the next few weeks as we (obviously) cannot rely on Mensah being fit every game.
 
Should have blocked Arteta's shot for their second. Also, if it was Bramble and Turner at the back then the ball through right at the end would have been dealt with and Beckford wouldn't have had the chance.

Like the way they dealt with Liverpools second?
 
Is this a wind up?

He was terrible! He has a concentration span of about 3 seconds, his positional sense is woeful & he thinks he is better than he actually is! Did you not see him run under the ball when Turner cleared Cahills chp off the line? Did you not see his awful attempt of a clearance in the last minute to let Beckford in? And IMO he was at fault for their 1st goal, he should of been picking Cahill up. Should never play for us again at CH, he scares me to death!

Think we either have to try Onuoha there or give Da Silva a run?

Let me add to that, that Mensah should play ahead of him with one arm!!!!

Cahills chip was IMO a superb through ball and the forward turning the defender, not nice to see when it's your defender but happens.
Beckford shot - where I sit (west stand in line with egde of 'D') I was side on so it just looked like 3 blokes chasing the ball to me.

I agree Mensah should be first choice with a.n.other. The others we have are all pretty much on a par IMO.
 
We look really shakey with Anton in the team tonight, im hoping Titus aint gonna need surgury or hopefully Jonny Mensah can get back to fill in for titus cause Antons defending is worrying

plays like shakin 'shakey' stevens, when he did his tribute to jacko he danced like shakey
 
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