Fans getting frustrated and worried about KLD ownership already ?


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I'd agree with some of your points but I still think a toxic atmosphere hinders development on the pitch. Young lads tend not to thrive in it and some players will, shall we say, play within themselves. Ultimately the manager normally pays the price too and the new owner will have to ask those fans to renew season cards after another year of failure. The two signings so far are hardly indicative of some new data driven model anyway.....essentially they look like more of the same, old, injury prone players with question marks against them.

I know what you mean but I believe the plan should be independent as fan wants are not conducive to successful running of the club.

Those in charge have to be brave and most of all bright enough.

I quite agree about Pritchard and the links to Evans and co. Its not what I was hoping or expecting.
 
I know what you mean but I believe the plan should be independent as fan wants are not conducive to successful running of the club.

Those in charge have to be brave and most of all bright enough.

I quite agree about Pritchard and the links to Evans and co. Its not what I was hoping or expecting.

I've been advocating a "hybrid" model where the long term structural changes are started but an initial cash injection is made to facilitate the signing of a few players who could make a difference immediately. It's not even as if that is counter-intuitive to the long term plan if good young players like Sanderson are bought.
 
I've been advocating a "hybrid" model where the long term structural changes are started but an initial cash injection is made to facilitate the signing of a few players who could make a difference immediately. It's not even as if that is counter-intuitive to the long term plan if good young players like Sanderson are bought.

I'm not sure Sanderson has ever been a viable option, but I'd suggest his signing would being term depending on the price.

I have no issue with spending 10m if there is a high probability that those players will be valued at 20m in a years time. Procees needs proving before scaling i would imagine, but as of yet, I dont see a process.

Sure it will become clear in time, I had assumed that the recruitment didn't have anywhere near enough time to be sorted properly for the scale of this summer, I hope that is the case rather than just more of the short term same.
 
The problem as ever is with the restrictions on wages versus turnover after a covid affected couple of seasons and our wage bill already being miles over what would be classed as compliant. He would have to do some pretty unsustainable things to support ‘big’ signings - so gamble effectively on him doping us to get us out the league to the championship where the restriction ain’t in place. Currently isn’t in place that is! I don’t get the feeling they want to take that approach if I’m honest
 
The problem as ever is with the restrictions on wages versus turnover after a covid affected couple of seasons and our wage bill already being miles over what would be classed as compliant. He would have to do some pretty unsustainable things to support ‘big’ signings - so gamble effectively on him doping us to get us out the league to the championship where the restriction ain’t in place. Currently isn’t in place that is! I don’t get the feeling they want to take that approach if I’m honest
I think most people understand that, but given everything you said and the fact we still have several highly paid players for this level at least who probably aren't going to contribute gives us a big problem. It means we are going to have to be way smarter with our recruitment, but we haven't even fully recruited the team to do it yet and most of the rest had been here weeks when the season finished. It was always going to be a very difficult for them to come in hit the ground running and find half a dozen gems for next to nothing.
That leaves a decision to be made, we can abandon short term and accept it's going to take a year or two to get everything up and running and we may not get promoted in that time, try to do a bit of a hybrid sign a few more established players allied to some young released players and hope it's enough or they throw short term money at it while trying to put things in place in the back ground. There are risks and benefits with all of them, looks like we are trying to do a hybrid if rumours are true.
 
Good or bad, it's never ever possible to assess how things are going at this stage. We've had summers where we've been noticeably busy throughout the summers with players streaming in steadily, and summers where we've been waiting anxiously for something to happen, and all sorts of different outcomes. When the window shuts and we see how the team is performing a few games in, we'll know if it's been good or not.
 
I think most people understand that, but given everything you said and the fact we still have several highly paid players for this level at least who probably aren't going to contribute gives us a big problem. It means we are going to have to be way smarter with our recruitment, but we haven't even fully recruited the team to do it yet and most of the rest had been here weeks when the season finished. It was always going to be a very difficult for them to come in hit the ground running and find half a dozen gems for next to nothing.
That leaves a decision to be made, we can abandon short term and accept it's going to take a year or two to get everything up and running and we may not get promoted in that time, try to do a bit of a hybrid sign a few more established players allied to some young released players and hope it's enough or they throw short term money at it while trying to put things in place in the back ground. There are risks and benefits with all of them, looks like we are trying to do a hybrid if rumours are true.

I think you’re probably right about the hybrid model
 
Few very important things for me.
We need to get off to a good start.
We need the players that we bring in to hit the ground running and perform better than the ones we've let go.
We also need to see a 10-15% improvement from the retained players on how they performed last year.
If we can do the above and gather some momentum from the off we'll be promoted.

Questioning KLD at this stage is utterly pointless.
LJ needs to deliver this season. He's arguably already had a decent crack of the whip.

Time to get us promoted. The bigger test of manager and owner will be what they do once we're in the Championship imo.

I see no reason not trust KLD as I think he's conducted himself well since taking over from the other two shithouses.
 
Season ticket holder for the last 29 years ya pan of broth heed

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Our financial restrictions are self imposed, if you believe Alan Nixon.

I know people give Mad Bob stick, but he’s also been saying for weeks that we won’t be spending money until we become self sustainable, which is sensible.

I don’t necessarily think that throwing money at transfers is the best way to go anyway but it’s what some people want.
 
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It’s slightly worrying that clubs are making moves and we’ve barely got a first 11.
Have you seen the list of players who those clubs have signed? We haven't missed out on anyone special. The squad will be much stronger by the time we kick off the season and we all need to remember that contrary to what some of the 'experts' on here might think the powers that be aren't actually stupid or sitting twiddling their thumbs. Don't be dragged down by the constant negativity mate.
 
I'm not sure if this is possible, it might be so far fetched and unbelievable but could a club hire backroom staff, lay a new pitch and sign some good players all at the same time?

I know, it's madness to even suggest it.
 
I dont think my general interest in SAFC has ever been lower tbh. I think I`ve hit that point that a lot of blokes in their 40s seem to
Good or bad, it's never ever possible to assess how things are going at this stage. We've had summers where we've been noticeably busy throughout the summers with players streaming in steadily, and summers where we've been waiting anxiously for something to happen, and all sorts of different outcomes. When the window shuts and we see how the team is performing a few games in, we'll know if it's been good or

Are we not following a "model" this year ? The udinese model was particularly divisive iirc
 
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It's a thankless task owning this club. From Murray } now the only owner I can remember the fans not hating was Quinn and that's because of what he did as a footballer gave him the respect.
 
The blokes only just took over the club and said it's a long term plan but it seems a lot of fans on social media and forums like this are increasingly worried about the club not having a pot to piss in basically

Rumours in the papers from respected journalists of strict budgets and difficult financial restraints and the like seems to have fueled these concerns. When the likes of Wigan and Ipswich are spending money

Hopefully this isn't the case because the last thing we need and want is another owner who doesn't invest in the squad
A small minority of fans decided without a lot of evidence, that KLD would start to do all the things they're believe in and then sold those ideas to the wider fan base and this summer has being off the scale lunacy. Now we are back to reality and our season is set to be another hard slog its understandable some feel we were sold a false prospectus. To be fair to the club, I think they've being pretty honest with the fans.

Nobody knows how this season is set to pan out, except its going to be a slog. I'm hopeful that Johnson has learned some lessons about his ego and can consider himself lucky to be still in post and winning titles is about building a team spirit, without irritating the fans in the process. Much will depend on the mythical U23s and we really could do with a bit of luck the first five games as the side tries to settle itself.
 
I dont think my general interest in SAFC has ever been lower tbh. I think I`ve hit that point that a lot of blokes in their 40s seem to


Are we not following a "model" this year ? The udinese model was particularly divisive iirc

I think the model is, do your homework on players, sign good ones, signings can't be too short term because we're building for the division above and eventually the division above that hopefully.
 
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