Failure to sign striker cost us


Not having a focal point dictated their whole strategy. They pressed us very high up the pitch , knowing we could not play over the top.
Im sure Johnson Clarke Harris would have altered Luton's startegy and made them having to worry about the ball over the top.....Rob Edwards would have been terrified that they would be caught out with either his pace or him out muscling their defenders,
 
I get what you're saying in a lot of points you're making, but you're talking about one game in which it's really cost us. You haven't brought these points up for ages. It hasn't effected us in the majority of games we've played since January. Just unfortunate it was last night, and we didn't turn up as a whole. It happens.
You are right . It didnt happen in a lot of games and that is credit to the manager and our talented players but if you are in the play offs you are playing better sides who are more organised who can take advantage of your weaknesses.
 
Well done to our players and Tony Mowbray for working miracles with the players at his disposal.
Lot of nonsense posted about tactics or players bottling it.
The cold facts are we were unable to counter their high press because we had no option to play long.
The reason for this is the abject failure to sign a decent physical striker in January.
Those responsible have let down the players who have performed amazing the manager and the supporters.
You need the tools to do the job.
Fucks sake.
How many times.
Let's see what happens this season.
Say you were in charge of player purchases, in january you couldnt get your top choices in a notoriously difficult window , but hoped you could get them in the summer. Well not getting anyone is abject failure right, as you said, not getting a striker in is letting down the players, so being a top guy that you are, you pay over the odds for a decent physical striker that is way down your list.

We don't go up. Now we're stuck with a striker we don't really want on too much money, having paid over the odds. and going forward in our summer spending we are now limited who we can get in.
Our long term ffp plan has been fucked to placate people in the short term.

The reason why our club has been a basket case for so long is cos everything we did was for the short term. Get a manager in to save us. Buy players he wants. Get rid of him. Get a new manager in.
We now have a long term plan and have a sqaud of players the majority of us love more than any in our lifetime - players for the future, but cos we didn't fuck up our long term plan and we had a squad which, with our injuries finished a deserved 6th, some of our fans need to blame someone for losing to a Luton team which bombarded our depleted defence.

Abject failure. Some of our fans really need to get a grip
 
Im sure Johnson Clarke Harris would have altered Luton's startegy and made them having to worry about the ball over the top.....Rob Edwards would have been terrified that they would be caught out with either his pace or him out muscling their defenders,
I suggest you have a look at this years league 1 goal scorers charts.
 
So your saying teams don’t need to play with strikers
Best tell the other 91 teams mate as they are wasting money .

i never said that at all.

i said there is no guarantee that we would have scored more goals since january if we had a striker. you say its a fact; its literally impossible to say that is a fact, ergo you are talking bollocks

having a stiker would have been such a big benefit to us, don't think anyone is arguing that we didn't need one. we needed two or three once stewart and simms were gone. don't think anyone will argue we didn't need strikers

however, the people suggesting that the club purposely didn't sign one are merely postulating for dramatic effect
 
Yeah it’s all speakmann’s fault

It’s also speakmann’s fault that we’re in the play off places in the championship, and not the play off places in league 1

It’s also his fault that we watched Amad, Clarke, Roberts and Pritchard have an off night last night instead of watching Scowen, Power, Maguire and Wyke have an off night 2 years ago

^^^ if you’re so desperate to lay the blame on somebody
 
It is his fault or the owner who did not sanction the necessary investment.
If you went back to the start of the season no fans and no pundits were tipping us for promotion. No pundits and very few fans tipped us for the play offs. So, by almost everyone's measure this season has been a success and one of over achievement. The club has got many things right and some things wrong. The day after the window shut in January Speakman came out and expressed frustration and disappointment at not getting an extra striker in.

However, last night, and even in the first leg and especially against Watford a lack of defenders cost us. Last night Alese and Huggins were not fit to start. So, effectively we had five defenders injured. It was the lack of defenders that costs us. If, say, Ballard and Cirkin had been fit we may well be at Wembley. If its the fault of the owner and Speakman that we didn't get a striker it is also their fault that we over achieved by almost everyone's expectation and that the season will judged a success.
 
And 2 proper central defenders is not enough.
Little old Luton had 2 playing , one on the bench and one who didnt make the squad.
We had Cirkin, Batth, Ballard all missing and Alese hurried back from the dead for 30 mins. That's 4 CBs unavailable to start last night, and in the reverse fixture.
 
Fucks sake.
How many times.
Let's see what happens this season.
Say you were in charge of player purchases, in january you couldnt get your top choices in a notoriously difficult window , but hoped you could get them in the summer. Well not getting anyone is abject failure right, as you said, not getting a striker in is letting down the players, so being a top guy that you are, you pay over the odds for a decent physical striker that is way down your list.

We don't go up. Now we're stuck with a striker we don't really want on too much money, having paid over the odds. and going forward in our summer spending we are now limited who we can get in.
Our long term ffp plan has been fucked to placate people in the short term.

The reason why our club has been a basket case for so long is cos everything we did was for the short term. Get a manager in to save us. Buy players he wants. Get rid of him. Get a new manager in.
We now have a long term plan and have a sqaud of players the majority of us love more than any in our lifetime - players for the future, but cos we didn't fuck up our long term plan and we had a squad which, with our injuries finished a deserved 6th, some of our fans need to blame someone for losing to a Luton team which bombarded our depleted defence.


Abject failure. Some of our fans really need to get a grip

Which division are we still in?
 
We would have had an "out ball" which would then have taken the pressure off the defence for a period and given us different options, which again would have made it a lot harder for the opposition to combat as we could then mix it up more rather than being hemmed back onto our goal line/penalty area.....which is what all of the teams who have beaten us have done very well, pinned us back for large parts of the game.
This just isn't true.
Which division are we still in?
What's your point?
 
I think we have had a brilliant season and we are way ahead of where we expected to be. All the if's and but's about sign this player or that are just pessimistic speculation. No one knows what would have happened had we signed another striker. We could have finished outsied the play offs.
This is a good post. When we lost strikers, after an initial blip, we continued scoring goals. We were 4th top scorers in the league despite lack of strikers. With a fit Simms, for example, we may have ended up outside the play offs. Its not a stupid suggestion.
 
Going to be really interesting to see how we approach the striker situation.

If we don't sign 2 (3 if Stewart leaves) then it will be difficult to take the project seriously.

Will probably be difficult to judge as we likely simply won't have heard of whoever we do sign.
 
Not having a focal point dictated their whole strategy. They pressed us very high up the pitch , knowing we could not play over the top.
But we dominanted posession? if you are right they would have had all the ball.
 
Only happy clappers or idiots can’t see not signing a striker or two in both windows has cost us dearly.
The fact we have still scored goals only proves that with strikers we would have scored more and as you said it would have given us an outlet when under pressure . It’s been glaringly obvious .
This pre season needs to see two quality strikers alongside LND plus a possible loanee.

if you are expecting 2 quality strikers alongside LND your going to be disappointed
 
Please watch the game again.
Our defence were constantly under pressure when we had the ball.
It was constantly intercepted in midfield because we had no option to bypass their press and had to try and play through them every time.

And a striker would have changed that how?

All what would have happened is we'd have gone long and if they managed to lay it off a few times they would have outmuscled Diallo Roberts and Clarke.

So your solution was not a solution. If our defenders had been fit we wouldn't have been as vulnerable, the pressure wouldn't have built as much signing a striker doesn't change fact Neil Roberts Clarke amad were being bullied out the game.

We needed an option behind their backline last night not strength. You said we needed a presence we didn't we needed pace to stop them pressing high. You are 100% wrong in my opinion
 
But we dominanted posession? if you are right they would have had all the ball.

Virtually all in our own half.
And a striker would have changed that how?

All what would have happened is we'd have gone long and if they managed to lay it off a few times they would have outmuscled Diallo Roberts and Clarke.

So your solution was not a solution. If our defenders had been fit we wouldn't have been as vulnerable, the pressure wouldn't have built as much signing a striker doesn't change fact Neil Roberts Clarke amad were being bullied out the game.

We needed an option behind their backline last night not strength. You said we needed a presence we didn't we needed pace to stop them pressing high. You are 100% wrong in my opinion

Pace would have also worked and we didnt have that.
Stewart had pace and strength we have not replaced it
 
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i never said that at all.

i said there is no guarantee that we would have scored more goals since january if we had a striker. you say its a fact; its literally impossible to say that is a fact, ergo you are talking bollocks

having a stiker would have been such a big benefit to us, don't think anyone is arguing that we didn't need one. we needed two or three once stewart and simms were gone. don't think anyone will argue we didn't need strikers

however, the people suggesting that the club purposely didn't sign one are merely postulating for dramatic effect
It’s literally impossible to know if the club actually tried to sign these strikers in January also so you too are talking bollocks.
 

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