Failure to sign striker cost us


So do you think the professionals running our club will have learned anything from last nights tame defeat?
We all knew we needed a striker in January. But there's no way on this earth we're paying around 5m for a 29/30 year old league one striker and nor should we. We've just got in the play offs scoring in practically every game. We didn't lose last night because we didn't have a striker, we lost because we played a midget defence while our two main choice 6ft plus centre backs were injured.
 
If we had Batth and Ballard playing we would still have to pass our way out of our own half.....and then pass our way to the opposition's penalty area, as we have been doing ever since we lost Stewart and Simms.

Losing the centre backs has been the straw that broke the camel's back but we were severely hampered well before then and what has been achieved in the latter part of this season has been in spite of the January recruitment.

Not knocking the recruitment by the way, which on the whole has been fantastic, but the manager, players and fans were badly let down in that last window.

They weren't getting in behind though. They were attacking us from set pieces. The passing out the back wasn't the issue it was when the ball was going in the box we weren't clearing our lines. That's got nowt to do with a striker
 
Calm down man, since we’ve had no striker we have been forced to play a nice passing game, which has worked 85-90% of the time. If we had a 3rd division striker to lump the ball up to at every opportunity, we would not have hit upon this style of play and imo would have got no where near the play offs. All in my humble opinion of course.

I agree with you our football has been a joy to watch .
But you must recognise that a well drilled team with physical players always had the potential to do us like Luton did last night.
If you watch the game our defenders were constantly under pressure and struggled to get out because we had no option to by pass their press.
You can still play lovely football and have a physical presence up front. You neec that option.
Mowbray wasnt given it.
 
Well done to our players and Tony Mowbray for working miracles with the players at his disposal.
Lot of nonsense posted about tactics or players bottling it.
The cold facts are we were unable to counter their high press because we had no option to play long.
The reason for this is the abject failure to sign a decent physical striker in January.
Those responsible have let down the players who have performed amazing the manager and the supporters.
You need the tools to do the job.
You aren't wrong but that doesn't mean the club failed, you don't know who was available. We all said Stewart Donald was wrong for buying grigg in the manner he did yet seems some would have rather we done that again this season.
 
We’d have needed drogba and Suarez upfront last neet to have stood a chance against that tbf like.

Our defence is the reason we didn’t go up. Let’s not kid ourselves suppose that’s to be expected when you are playing 3 5ft8 centre backs against the biggest team in the league
 
With the amount of goals we have scored does not support your theory. Who is to say if LND had been fit we would have scored as many goals? Scoring goals was not the problem. We did not go into last nights game having to score to get through. Our problems have been more defensive related and inability to keep enough clean sheets. Even if you have strikers but keep conceding then it will be tough.
We would have had an "out ball" which would then have taken the pressure off the defence for a period and given us different options, which again would have made it a lot harder for the opposition to combat as we could then mix it up more rather than being hemmed back onto our goal line/penalty area.....which is what all of the teams who have beaten us have done very well, pinned us back for large parts of the game.
 
Tell me why we could not escape their high press last night.
Only happy clappers or idiots can’t see not signing a striker or two in both windows has cost us dearly.
The fact we have still scored goals only proves that with strikers we would have scored more and as you said it would have given us an outlet when under pressure . It’s been glaringly obvious .
This pre season needs to see two quality strikers alongside LND plus a possible loanee.
 
Again, we were among the highest scoring teams in the division. Scoring goals wasn't our problem.

The goals we conceded all came from set plays and given we were missing our two first choice centre backs and the other one Alese was only coming back from injury is possibly the main reason we suffered.

We have a young and relatively inexperienced squad who are learning, stop f***ing whinging
 
They weren't getting in behind though. They were attacking us from set pieces. The passing out the back wasn't the issue it was when the ball was going in the box we weren't clearing our lines. That's got nowt to do with a striker
Please watch the game again.
Our defence were constantly under pressure when we had the ball.
It was constantly intercepted in midfield because we had no option to bypass their press and had to try and play through them every time.
 
if we had some defenders there’s a good chance we would have gone through even without a striker.

That being said, they were knocking some good corners in and even a fit defence would have had problems.
 
Again, we were among the highest scoring teams in the division. Scoring goals wasn't our problem.

The goals we conceded all came from set plays and given we were missing our two first choice centre backs and the other one Alese was only coming back from injury is possibly the main reason we suffered.

We have a young and relatively inexperienced squad who are learning, stop f***ing whinging
I am not whinging I just think the players and the manager were badly let down.
 
It is his fault or the owner who did not sanction the necessary investment.

How do you know he didn't sanction the funds?

You are passing off conjecture as fact , and you are wrong for doing so

For all we know he could have said to the recruitment team I'll sanction £10million , but the dozen or so strikers that they went for all either turned us down or weren't for sale or couldn't pass a medical or went somewhere else, or millions of other reasons

I think we had a list of 10-20 realistic targets and they tried for each one and couldn't get them across the line, eventually ending up at geldhart

You and many others think that we didn't even try to sign one

I know which scenario is more likely
The fact we have still scored goals only proves that with strikers we would have scored more a

Utter nonsense
 
if we had some defenders there’s a good chance we would have gone through even without a striker.

That being said, they were knocking some good corners in and even a fit defence would have had problems.
If we had a striker who could hold the ball up it would have taken a lot of pressure off and our skilful quick players would have been feeding off him
How do you know he didn't sanction the funds?

You are passing off conjecture as fact , and you are wrong for doing so

For all we know he could have said to the recruitment team I'll sanction £10million , but the dozen or so strikers that they went for all either turned us down or weren't for sale or couldn't pass a medical or went somewhere else, or millions of other reasons

I think we had a list of 10-20 realistic targets and they tried for each one and couldn't get them across the line, eventually ending up at geldhart

You and many others think that we didn't even try to sign one

I know which scenario is more likely


Utter nonsense

If you pay the money you will get the player
 
How do you know he didn't sanction the funds?

You are passing off conjecture as fact , and you are wrong for doing so

For all we know he could have said to the recruitment team I'll sanction £10million , but the dozen or so strikers that they went for all either turned us down or weren't for sale or couldn't pass a medical or went somewhere else, or millions of other reasons

I think we had a list of 10-20 realistic targets and they tried for each one and couldn't get them across the line, eventually ending up at geldhart

You and many others think that we didn't even try to sign one

I know which scenario is more likely


Utter nonsense
So your saying teams don’t need to play with strikers
Best tell the other 91 teams mate as they are wasting money .
 
I feel like something has been going on behind the scenes, Mowbray has said himself about links to other coaches, maybe we didn’t spend in January as a manager would want his own players in the summer? Who knows.
 
I am not whinging I just think the players and the manager were badly let down.

Certainly comes across as a whinge to me

I understand the point you're trying to make but your wrong.

If we'd had an outlet up front then maybe it would have been different, but we didn't go out of the play offs because we didn't score. And we didn't not qualify for the play offs because we failed to score

We went out of the play offs because we failed to defend set pieces, and if you look at the injuries to key personnel then that is the reason we went out. The inability to get a back-up striker is not the reason.
 
Well done to our players and Tony Mowbray for working miracles with the players at his disposal.
Lot of nonsense posted about tactics or players bottling it.
The cold facts are we were unable to counter their high press because we had no option to play long.
The reason for this is the abject failure to sign a decent physical striker in January.
Those responsible have let down the players who have performed amazing the manager and the supporters.
You need the tools to do the job.
Instead of bleeting on about your January striker , which you have months , why dont you say who would you have liked to sign.....as Ive told you mnay times before there was no one available. Yes you could have splashed out £5 million on Johnson Clarke Harris or gone for a free like Chris Martin , Watmore , Waghorn but thankfully we didnt because we are not going down that root of wasting money again.

We did try and get Archer but he went to Boro.....Simms would have come back but Everton sacked Lampard and they didnt sign a striker on deadline day..... Stewart got injured in January which ruined the Joffy/Stewart partnership......Im glad we didnt sign somebody which now we would have been lumbered with. Now we can go for the targets that have probably been planned for months.....

Youve been dying to start this thread....probably had it ready on copy and paste for past 4 months
 

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