F1 2022


Haven't seen the Horner interviews but I did say earlier on in the thread that I suspected RB thought loads were going to go over (and were probably banking on it) so would make sense.
Is that preemptive breaking of the rules? Kanny tactics... would be disappointing for Newey if this years car is docked anything, this is his best car ever & when you look at his back catalogue that's a decent stat.
 
Is that preemptive breaking of the rules? Kanny tactics... would be disappointing for Newey if this years car is docked anything, this is his best car ever & when you look at his back catalogue that's a decent stat.

Preemptive falling in the 5% abyss which is kind of allowed but kind of not allowed under the assumption loads would.
 
Why going forward? It needs to be done now.
FIA have put wriggle room judging by their statement on the fact it is the 1st season for these rules.
Their list of punishments are broad yet at the same time not clear cut as to what breakage of the cap and how badly leads to a certain fixed penalty amount.
If they said 5% equals 5% point deduction from both championships etc...it would be easier.
 
I took the FIA quote in the article to be related to the whole deal, not just half of it - my error, it was the first thing I'd seen on the updated news. I should have read it more carefully before posting as one or two have kindly pointed that out!
Not the only one, it was a poorly laid out article, got confused on Aston Martins issues myself
Guardian reckons its 2.2m, 1.5% overspend
 
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It won’t happen but to make the example it needs the title needs to be taken off max , I know fia wont dare but the fact is the car is technically illegal.

Lewis lost to a car that went over the cap
This is bang on. There seems to be a consensus that 1 million gives you 0.1 second a lap. So just pro rats that depending on the overspend and add the time onto Red Bull for every race last year - job done, clear precedent set.
 
This is bang on. There seems to be a consensus that 1 million gives you 0.1 second a lap. So just pro rats that depending on the overspend and add the time onto Red Bull for every race last year - job done, clear precedent set.

They won’t though, they got bored of Hamilton constantly winning, so any chance to shake it up they will. Hence last years fiasco.

And for the record, I don’t particularly like Hamilton.
 
FIA have put wriggle room judging by their statement on the fact it is the 1st season for these rules.
Their list of punishments are broad yet at the same time not clear cut as to what breakage of the cap and how badly leads to a certain fixed penalty amount.
If they said 5% equals 5% point deduction from both championships etc...it would be easier.
It’s a farce if so. Just cheats
 
They won’t though, they got bored of Hamilton constantly winning, so any chance to shake it up they will. Hence last years fiasco.

And for the record, I don’t particularly like Hamilton.
This they manipulated the last few races to allow a showdown, the greatest season ever, they didn’t want LH to beat MS 7 and wanted a new younger winner
 
My prediction, for what it’s worth, a reprimand.

And that’s it.

If I was Mercedes I would be ramping up development immediately as the “Cheaters Charter” is toothless.
With FIA stewards using precedent when dishing out penalties to drivers, how will it work if RB just get slapped wrists for this for future seasons when teams breach cost cap? Will precedent be quietly shelved. Between them FIA and Liberty are turning F1 into a laughing stock.

Other sports / governing bodies don't appear to have a problem removing/re-awarding medals/titles and banning participants for infringements, why would FIA not be able to do it? By applying the rules as written and agreed it is surely not be a problem. The paying public not to mention other drivers and teams have been robbed of their rewards by a team breaking the rules. The employees of the teams get a bonus for results, Mercedes employees will have missed out on a bonus whilst RBR employees will have received one for an unmerited title in 2021, surely that's not fair. It is not just Max and Lewis affected by this, it is all the drivers/teams and employees who could have lost out.
 
With FIA stewards using precedent when dishing out penalties to drivers, how will it work if RB just get slapped wrists for this for future seasons when teams breach cost cap? Will precedent be quietly shelved. Between them FIA and Liberty are turning F1 into a laughing stock.

Other sports / governing bodies don't appear to have a problem removing/re-awarding medals/titles and banning participants for infringements, why would FIA not be able to do it? By applying the rules as written and agreed it is surely not be a problem. The paying public not to mention other drivers and teams have been robbed of their rewards by a team breaking the rules. The employees of the teams get a bonus for results, Mercedes employees will have missed out on a bonus whilst RBR employees will have received one for an unmerited title in 2021, surely that's not fair. It is not just Max and Lewis affected by this, it is all the drivers/teams and employees who could have lost out.
A reprimand is one of the possible outcomes available to the governing body.

Given the track record of the FIA I feel there will not be anything beyond that accompanied by a glib statement about further breaches being dealt with harshly to ward off other teams attempts to catch up.

I hope I am wrong but I have little faith in this organisation.
 
TBF we don't know it's a coincidence or not, that's the scale of the mess - it could be as no one could ever prove it either way realistically. That means (to me) the punishment has to err on severe for the sake of the sport.

At first thought I think the politically safest way (I'm not suggesting the correct way) would be a Bolton situation with RBR drivers starting on -100 points next season.
I thought you said it was ‘wound licking’ and ‘irrational’ to discuss this? Why the 360?
 

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