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As much as I would like that to happen, just can’t see it happening.
Cant see any other way to penalise them, if it true. Dock constructors points, fine them, reduce their budget for this year? The damage is done. I cant see them doing it but it would put the sport back to where it should be. LH 8 time and MV 1st title. Stop all the fighting, creates a strong enough penalty and outs RB as cheats.
 
As much as I would like that to happen, just can’t see it happening.
I have to agree, the way the FIA is at the moment I don't see them retrospectively taking a championship. Though if the evidence is damning enough, the OP may have a point that they didn't want to be seen to be putting artificial pressure on Max by making him have to win his "first" championship again.
 
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I just have a suspicion that they need the drivers championship decided before they announce the budget cap results.

This is just my opinion, I think they will penalise Red Bull for last year and if they do it will penalise Max. Got a feeling they need him to have his championship (this year) so it softens the blow when he loses last years. They knew the rules were not followed last year and he’s only a paper champion but this way he gets the title he deserves and LH gets his 8th.
It suits the suspect behaviour of the FIA, but I really can't see them actually having the bottle to do it. They absolutely should, I have no doubt, but just can't see it happening.

Plus it would then create a bigger problem, as they are already past this years budget cap too by all reports - do we take his 2022 title too this time next year if and when they're shown to be over?
 
Get a grip man :lol:
To be honest it was Red Bull who breached the cap not Max, he just benefitted from it.

He drove disgracefully last year but should have been penalised at the time by the stewards.

It’s this years car that has been a result of serious development to end Mercedes’ domination. Some sort of organisational penalty would appear appropriate
 
Expulsion for this years Constructors Championship is my guess if it's a harsh one.
Does anyone even care about the constructors? It is the drivers where the benefit is for the teams and where the glory is, and it's there that punishments should sit.

Giving a constructors penalty just confirms it should have been Lewis' title for yet another reason.
To be honest it was Red Bull who breached the cap not Max, he just benefitted from it.

He drove disgracefully last year but should have been penalised at the time by the stewards.

It’s this years car that has been a result of serious development to end Mercedes’ domination. Some sort of organisational penalty would appear appropriate
Max is part of Red Bull, so Max did break it. As did Perez.
 
To be honest it was Red Bull who breached the cap not Max, he just benefitted from it.

He drove disgracefully last year but should have been penalised at the time by the stewards.

It’s this years car that has been a result of serious development to end Mercedes’ domination. Some sort of organisational penalty would appear appropriate
I would argue that the rate at which RB caught up to Mercedes in the second half of last year was highly unusual and in the light of what we know now, deeply suspicious
 
But Max will have benefitted from a car that has an unfair advantage. Not a level playing field.
"But...but" why don't you cry about it? :lol: . MV getting ramped off at Silverstone wasn't fair either but hey ho.
I would argue that the rate at which RB caught up to Mercedes in the second half of last year was highly unusual and in the light of what we know now, deeply suspicious
It's was the opposite way around, Merc were the strongest in the 2nd half of the season
 
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A lot of wound licking on the thread now, a shame it's normally rational debate has been suspended again. Better luck next time.
Surely it’s perfectly rationale to discuss something that is a breach of the rules of the sport and has consequences for that sport? If Sunderland missed out on a promotion, or winning the league, by a team that had allegedly broken the rules of the sport you would - rightly - at least question that, no? I don’t really understand how objectively you can say it’s irrational?
 
MV mounting Lewis at Monza? How many points did that cost LH? LH banned from qualifying in Brazil? Didn’t realise you had Max tinted glasses on.
Monza was a racing incident. No Max tainted glasses at all, but he defiantly deserved that title last year. How it ended was questionable but over the season he was by far the best driver.
 
MV mounting Lewis at Monza? How many points did that cost LH? LH banned from qualifying in Brazil? Didn’t realise you had Max tinted glasses on.
Don't forget Lewis getting TWO 5s penalties for doing a practice start somewhere other than everyone else before the race. Even though the rules said it was fine, so they changed the rules for the next race.
 
I would argue that the rate at which RB caught up to Mercedes in the second half of last year was highly unusual and in the light of what we know now, deeply suspicious
In fairness, that was quite normal year on year with merc getting ahead then flipping to next years car, with red bull focusing on catching up. They'd done this for quite a few years.
 
It suits the suspect behaviour of the FIA, but I really can't see them actually having the bottle to do it. They absolutely should, I have no doubt, but just can't see it happening.

Plus it would then create a bigger problem, as they are already past this years budget cap too by all reports - do we take his 2022 title too this time next year if and when they're shown to be over?
Yes in a word. No team can be allowed to break rules
 

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