Discussion in 'SMB' started by Safcpeterlee81, Sep 8, 2015.
Are these the ones where the odds have to be less no higher than 1.2?
You won't actually have many accounts. There's *loads* of bookies. Get involved, it's so easy to do (unless you live in the fucking Netherlands! )
Unlucky mate ha any advice about how to go about it
Just sign up for oddsmonkey and do their free trial. They use Betfred and Coral. That will return about 35 to 40 quid. A mate and I have just done it this weekend, it couldn't be any easier, the website holds your hand through it all. Once you've done the trial get the premium version, it'll show you how to get all the free bets on sites like 10bet, 138.com, 888 etc. From the piss easy, no effort sign ups there's about 200 quid to be made, easy. You can do those with your eyes closed.
I might as well throw the obligatory affiliates link up if nobody sees is
It really is straightforward to do. And if anything having old accounts might be more useful in avoiding them stopping offers (gubbing) the account as its already got a profile.
I'd already done most of the signups a few years ago. Onto the reloads (the recurring offers for existing customers now). I make at least £300 a month, usually somewhere between £600-£1,000. With the no lays, it's a long game. You have bad weekends (sometimes a run of them), and good. I should make around £6 per acca on average over time, so that's how I look at it.
No, I'm assuming those are the lay at the start ones. These ones you don't lay at all, so they're advantage play. Much like the casino offers. Not risk free, but providing they're positive expected value, you'll end up ahead over time.
Is this on OM mate?
So what, you stick an acca on at least 5 teams and hope it comes off or that only one loses?
Wheres your bank account based? If you are appearing to a bookie to be in the UK but using a dutch bank account i would imagine that would set an alarm off somewhere.
Yes, mate. There's a guide on it, and you can find a no-lay option on the Acca Matcher tool.
You want it to win, basically. Working on the 80% retention principle, if one match loses I'll be £5 down.
I'm confused as to how this is any different from normal gambling? (I presume I'm missing something!)
UK. Just using my Internet here in the Netherlands. I've cancelled my oddsmonkey account and I'm just going to knock this on the head until I'm home, no point trying force this and ending up blacklisted when I'd rather play the long game.
It's similar to the casino offers that Oddsmonkey and Profit Accumulator promote; not risk free, but based on the expected value (that if you place the same bet an infinite amount of times, you're going to end up with a profit). For example, I look for accumulators that have an EV of £6+ from a £25 stake. This is calculated via the true odds of an event happening, based on the lay odds at the exchange. This is why you're looking for close matches, even though you're not laying anything. So the closer the accumulator back odds are to its total lay odds, the greater the expected value. It's value betting, basically, and the value is only there when there's a "free bet if one leg loses" offer.
I don't have my results sheet to hand at the minute, but I'll provide the stats for the season so far when I get home. I've placed over 300 no lay bets and I imagine the average profit per acca will be around £7 (slightly ahead of the expected EV, so I expect this to fall over time).
Fair enough - very interesting mate. If you could post that it'd be good to see; I want to get into doing accas as I'm wary I look VERY gubworthy at the moment
can you not get someone the family or a friend to keep a PC turned on and connected to their internet that you can remote into to do what you need?
It's hard to know for sure, but I reckon no lay accas probably look fairly muggy. Last season, I did sequential lays, where you have no overlapping matches and lay each leg off one at a time. I got gubbed off Coral and William Hill for it (I didn't do any other form of betting with either at the time). Since starting no lays, I haven't lost an account through accumulator betting.
Do you always do £50?
I put 4 accas on at the weekend and 19 out of 20 teams came in, I put Sunderland on one of them to boost the odds as I thought they would win.
Wish I'd stuck a pound on the lot minus SAFC
Just gonna stick with accas and hi5 this week, got 3 sets of accounts available for the main acca refunders so mayswell make the most of them
I haven't a clue what that even means tbh. I've just given up for now, money all refunded. £20 profit from one bookie. Cant' complain.
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