Ex-CIA Pilot - No Planes Hit The Twin Towers


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Why the lack of phone video footage of the Pentagon plane? How common were video phones then? And how quickly do low flying jets pass over head?



Fair enough, unless any jap tourists were present it would be unlikely a camera phone caught anything.
Plenty of people seemed to have caught the towers with video camera's though, but as mentioned a jet would be flying quick so not much time to get one ready.
Ok, happy on that score.
 
But as I said, maybe someone at the pentagon shit themselves when it was announced that money was missing - then fearing a huge audit/investigation decided to destroy the people/records who could shed light on something they had done illegally.
Only an idea...

Yes, it's only an idea, and it's barking.
 
"Sir, all these records reveal our dodgy accounting methods. Shall I shred them?"

"No, let's hope that there is a huge terrorist attack soon which we can use as cover to hijack a 757 that's already in mid-air, kill everyone on board and hide the plane somewhere, disguise a missile as a 757 so well that it fools the hundreds of people who are bound to see it flying over a densely populated area and air-traffic controllers who will think it's still the plane which we hid, fly the missile into the Pentagon, surreptitiously scatter bits of the actual 757 and body parts from all the people we killed around the crash site in front of the media without them noticing."

Those yanks sure are crazy...
 
page 85 of this thread ( think it is also mentioned earlier on this thread also).

Cheers. In tact isn't the same as without a scratch. And although some may find it a little odd it isn't the first and won't be the last seat to be found whilst large parts if plane appear to have vanished. Same way passports are found in perfect condition when the holder of said passport resembles a pile of pepperamis.
 
What I find hard to understand, apart from the seat, is that it apparently flew very very low down over residential area's for quite some time - how come not one person said wow thats low down and whipped out their phone to record it? (or did they? would be good if someone had)
Also quite handy it was in a area of 'reduced' radar coverage so no one knows where/what actually went on radar wise for some of the time.
Is there any landing strips that could be viable in that area of 'reduced' radar coverage where they lost contact radar wise completly with the plane?

How many phones with video or even photo capability were on the market in 2001? We think that mobile phones able to take picture and video have been knocking about forever but they're a ridiculously recent invention.
Reduced radar coverage happens everywhere. All the stuff which is looking for threats is pointed out, not in. You lose 1000ft per 10 miles (roughly) from the radar head. You also have a blank directly overhead unless you have multiple radar feeds which are ridiculously expensive for an individual radar unit to have. We have it here at Swanwick and Prestwick.
An almost fully fuelled 757 will need a massive, properly maintained runway to land on. there's a reason why emergency aircraft have to burn off fuel before they land, if it lands too heavy there's a chance all that fuel could get really excited. Someone would have noticed, especially given what was happening elsewhere. Aircraft flying low over the vicinity of a major airport isn't a big deal however.
 
I think people forget sometimes, like on that particular day I was meant to be doing a fun run clans it was cancelled because everyone was watching the news

I was measuring taxiways inbetween fielding hysterical calls from numpties who thought every aircraft they saw was coming for them.
 
Cheers for answering. Well I would find all that hard to believe tbh, but I guess technically i cannot 100% rule it out.

Some of the main points Id focus on are

1. The seat bring found. Im not sure why people focus too much on that. Many plane crashes see large parts of planes reduced to nothing whilst items or clothing, seats and belongings are found without a single scratch on them.

2. Are we really saying the government decided to join with the terrorists? You have suggested (i know you havent said you def think so) that after the second tower was hit the gov saw an opportunity to strike the pentagon. That wouldnt really work would it as Flight 77 will already have been well into its flight, and the gov will have needed the person who took off to be in on it to make the switch and land the plane elsewhere.



Ow man, Im trying to at least find out/see where they are coming from :lol:

Can I also ask, would a better video of a plane hitting the pentagon silence the doubters? I ask as many of those doubting the pentagon continue to doubt commercial planes hit the towers.

some or any of the 84 recordings that the FBI are holding that show footage of the pentagon that day, and are currently the subject of a freedom of information act release request by the 911 truth movement, would really without doubt clear up whether it was flight 77 that crashed into it.

the fact is they are holding all of the vital evidence relating to one of the most serious crime scenes in Americas history, and are refusing to make it available to a major movement which represent tens of thousands of their own electorate, including some of the families of people who were supposed to be on the flight, who simply do not believe flight 77 crashed into the pentagon.

1. why was it all confiscated in such a rush

2. why are they refusing to release footage which would confirm what so many do not believe.
 
some or any of the 84 recordings that the FBI are holding that show footage of the pentagon that day, and are currently the subject of a freedom of information act release request by the 911 truth movement, would really without doubt clear up whether it was flight 77 that crashed into it.

the fact is they are holding all of the vital evidence relating to one of the most serious crime scenes in Americas history, and are refusing to make it available to a major movement which represent tens of thousands of their own electorate, including some of the families of people who were supposed to be on the flight, who simply do not believe flight 77 crashed into the pentagon.

1. why was it all confiscated in such a rush

2. why are they refusing to release footage which would confirm what so many do not believe.

Would it clear it up though?

We have millions of clips of the two planes hitting the towers, these are disputed. I've heard people claim it's cgi etc so I imagine footage from the pentagon would be labeled the same.
 
Cheers. In tact isn't the same as without a scratch. And although some may find it a little odd it isn't the first and won't be the last seat to be found whilst large parts if plane appear to have vanished. Same way passports are found in perfect condition when the holder of said passport resembles a pile of pepperamis.

you make a lot of statements and assumtions but rarely are there any source links etc
 
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