Ex-CIA Pilot - No Planes Hit The Twin Towers


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No I'm suggesting the pentagon has no obligation or need to release the videos into the public domain. Whereas some french bloke's grainy vhs us already in the public domain.
You seem to agree footage from the Pentagon does exist so don't you think it would be better to acknowledge and show that so the victims families can get an ending and are not subjected to missiles, Martians, 737's, drones, spontaneous combustion, changed flights and still alive, or whatever hope they may cling onto. It would make the very, very muddy waters a bit clearer as well. It's almost like all the tin foil is blurring the bigger picture. The more outrageous,the muddier it gets.
The French blokes grainy vhs was allowed to be broadcast. See Snowden.
 
Once you've finished telling your dad it was the Caretaker, hesitate....for a second or two and say.........maybe.
He replied very well, said how come there were puffs of smoke emerging from each floor consistent with a controlled explosion
 
No. History is evolutionary and there will be a point in time when the 'facts' you so willingly stand by, change. As they have over the course of history.

Governments don't lie, they don't allow murder to fit their agenda, they don't commit atrocities and blame it on other people to fight phony wars, do they? There is a lot more to 9/11 than a simple terrorist hijacking, there is that much information that the waters will not be clear until a Snowden-like release happens. However, you seem to have all the facts and evidence so that will not be necessary. I wonder, if the German people had the internet when the SS were committing acts of terror in the name of the Jews, would they have fell for it?

So when the facts don't fit your argument you start to claim facts aren't relevant and 'back it up' with hyperbole?

Your arguments aren't pragmatic. They're dogmatic. I don't know if you realise it though.

the evidence to suggest otherwise is at least 'reasonable'. its all about what we chose to believe.

No it's not. Given the evidence, it is irrational to believe it was not the hijacked airliner that struck the Pentagon.
 
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I think this pretty much shows exactly what the crack was at the pentagon

I was thinking more along the lines of why the victims families who were on plane 1 are so different to the victims families who were on the plane that slammed into the Pentagon. Are you suggesting it's because the American Military have more morals ? :lol:
The Pentagon was/is covered wall to wall with surveillance and to think there is no definitive footage of what occurred is stretching things to unrealistic levels in my opinion. Surely all the cranks and conspiracists can be totally debunked and put to rest if footage is released of the Pentagon plane. To say it doesn't exist is nonsense in my honest opinion.

Clear footage hasn't stopped nutters questioning what hit the twin towers :lol:
 
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The neo-cons should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves when all it's taken to expose their outrageous cover up is a bunch of X file loners in piss stained y-fronts sitting in front of a computer in their bedrooms.
 
I think that 9/11 happened the way we saw it on TV and that it was a terroist act but there are unanswered questions and more to the story than that of which the governments and media are telling us.

Like they don't want to admit just how grossly incompetent they were, as it might open up the way for very large financial settlements < This I agree with.
 
Like they don't want to admit just how grossly incompetent they were, as it might open up the way for very large financial settlements < This I agree with.
Are you saying there was a monumental fuck up in the worlds most sophisticated, powerful and best funded intelligence and military power on the day ? < Do you work in insurance ?
 
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