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kensplace
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Aye, unless you specifically want to call these firefighters liars...
Early Friday morning, shortly before 4 a.m., Burkhammer and another firefighter, Brian Moravitz, were combing through debris near the impact site. Peering at the wreckage with their helmet lights, the two spotted an intact seat from the plane’s cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached. Then they saw two odd-shaped dark boxes, about 1.5 by 2 feet long. They’d been told the plane’s “black boxes” would in fact be bright orange, but these were charred black. The boxes had handles on one end and one was torn open. They cordoned off the area and called for an FBI agent, who in turn called for someone from the National Transportation Safety Board who confirmed the find: the black boxes from American Airlines Flight 77.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100910124413/http://www.msnbc.msn.com:80/id/3069699/
They may (or may not) have seen a seat with floor attached.
Who is to say it was not placed for them to see?
I cannot imagine a plane hitting the pentagon head on, and a good sized chunk of the cockpit remaining intact, specially something as fragile as a seat - when it was supposed to have created a 16 foot hole in the wall.
The cock pit took the brunt of the impact, if it survived then far more of the plane would have survived intact.