Ex-CIA Pilot - No Planes Hit The Twin Towers


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Aye, unless you specifically want to call these firefighters liars...

Early Friday morning, shortly before 4 a.m., Burkhammer and another firefighter, Brian Moravitz, were combing through debris near the impact site. Peering at the wreckage with their helmet lights, the two spotted an intact seat from the plane’s cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached. Then they saw two odd-shaped dark boxes, about 1.5 by 2 feet long. They’d been told the plane’s “black boxes” would in fact be bright orange, but these were charred black. The boxes had handles on one end and one was torn open. They cordoned off the area and called for an FBI agent, who in turn called for someone from the National Transportation Safety Board who confirmed the find: the black boxes from American Airlines Flight 77.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100910124413/http://www.msnbc.msn.com:80/id/3069699/

They may (or may not) have seen a seat with floor attached.
Who is to say it was not placed for them to see?
I cannot imagine a plane hitting the pentagon head on, and a good sized chunk of the cockpit remaining intact, specially something as fragile as a seat - when it was supposed to have created a 16 foot hole in the wall.
The cock pit took the brunt of the impact, if it survived then far more of the plane would have survived intact.
 
Odd things like this happen in all plane crashes, they often find perfectly intact books, passports, bags etc. whilst everything else around them is a burning mess.

Have you not watched Air Crash Investigation? :)

that wouldn't be consistent if the plane vaporised though would it? as was stated officially to explain away the lack of hardly any wreckage
 
whatever hit the WTC, theres witness testimony, actual footage from minutes after the planes hit by eye witnesses saying at least one plane wasn't a commercial airliner

and they were brought down in a controlled demolition

:lol:

Okay then, so the collapse of the building, was that controlled to prevent other buildings in the area being effected? Did the demolition crew negotiate the building laying down strategic pieces of explosive so that it would fall in a controlled manner or were they there before the fire?

No. It collapsed due to damage.
 
I would classify it as confiscation, after all they still have it do they not? They wont let any one else view it will they?
A cam pointing in the wrong direction is easy, your average CCTV cam is often badly maintained.

poor maintenance is one thing when it is an internal issue but a camera pointing the wrong way completely is obvious to the naked eye.

why don't you see how many of these you see in the next week and post them on here?
 
So you think that they fired a cruise missile (which looked like a plane according to eyewitnesses) into the Pentagon then left bits of bodies and airplane lying around at the site. Without anyone noticing. Is this what you are saying?

well get your eyewitness statements right first, as one eyewitness stated it was a commercial airliner, another a 12 seater private light aircraft and another eyewitness stated seeing an army helicopter circling the area

and what if someone noticed, which many people probably did, what they gonna do, who they gonna turn to?? the cops? haway man
 
Well, they reported it didn't they? Feel free to replace 'BBC' with whatever news source you were referring to.
No, it was one reporter which was then picked up by other news agencies. Yes the reporter could have got it wrong but you would think she would have known, that it was still standing, with the building being behind her? Bit different than saying the whole BBC were in on it, isn't it?
 
well get your eyewitness statements right first, as one eyewitness stated it was a commercial airliner, another a 12 seater private light aircraft and another eyewitness stated seeing an army helicopter circling the area

and what if someone noticed, which many people probably did, what they gonna do, who they gonna turn to?? the cops? haway man

You are claiming that only one person said they saw a 'commercial airliner' hit the Pentagon? Seriously?
 
No. It collapsed due to damage.

The damage must have been so that it allowed the building to fall in a manner that would have been replicated following a controlled demolition then? What about the high-rise in Chechnya that burned for 29 hours and still didn't collapse, maybe we should take note of the building techniques used in Chechnya?
 
the damage to the front of the building is consistent to that of what a cruise missile would do a lot more than if a jumbo jet impacted it. i believe the hidden hand who controlled these events is capable of almost anything


So you do really think they risked the whole plot by using a missile despite successfully using plane on the towers. Tremendous :lol:
 
No, it was one reporter which was then picked up by other news agencies. Yes the reporter could have got it wrong but you would think she would have known, that it was still standing, with the building being behind her? Bit different than saying the whole BBC were in on it, isn't it?

I'm struggling to see where you're going with this one - was the reporter was in on it? Their manager? What? Otherwise why mention it?
 
I'm struggling to see where you're going with this one - was the reporter was in on it? Their manager? What? Otherwise why mention it?
Because you are trying to assert that I believe the BBC were in on this, it is much easier for one person i.e a reporter, to be prepared with something than a whole organisation.
 
They may (or may not) have seen a seat with floor attached.
Who is to say it was not placed for them to see?
I cannot imagine a plane hitting the pentagon head on, and a good sized chunk of the cockpit remaining intact, specially something as fragile as a seat - when it was supposed to have created a 16 foot hole in the wall.
The cock pit took the brunt of the impact, if it survived then far more of the plane would have survived intact.

Chief Master Sergeant John Monaccio, the senior Air Force enlisted police officer for the Air Force: "I was in the Pentagon on Sep 11th, in room 1B461, when we were attacked. I personally participated in rescue and recovery operations [...] The plane's inertia carried aircraft remains all the way through the building coming to rest on the outside walls of our offices. We discovered cockpit wreckage at our feet while attempting to rescue people from a Navy operations area."

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/pentagon-email_20020316.html

Loads of weird things happen in plane crashes, unlikely things survive wreckage all the time.
 
The damage must have been so that it allowed the building to fall in a manner that would have been replicated following a controlled demolition then? What about the high-rise in Chechnya that burned for 29 hours and still didn't collapse, maybe we should take note of the building techniques used in Chechnya?

its pointless man, the official version of events story has been enough for them to not to see the elephant in the room.
 
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