Ex-CIA Pilot - No Planes Hit The Twin Towers


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I said that was a bit odd tbf.

But I reckon there will have been reports about it burning or showing signs of collapse. That then got a bit mixed in the confusion and chaos and wrongly reported.

Remember, one new channel was reporting flight 11 was still in the air long after it had crashed.

And before you say that means its dodgy. It doesn't. Unless you can't use anything reported in the news to back your claims either.



Erm you doubt hijacked 757s hit the towers, despite the whole world seeing it clearly :lol:

i don't doubt anything hit the towers, its clear two planes flew into the towers, eh?
 
whatever hit the WTC, theres witness testimony, actual footage from minutes after the planes hit by eye witnesses saying at least one plane wasn't a commercial airliner

and they were brought down in a controlled demolition

How did they go about setting up all the TNT and wiring to demolish the towers without anyone questioning them or mentioning suspicious behaviour? I'm no expert but I imagine it would take hundreds of tons of explosives and wiring to bring down buildings the size of the WTC.

Missiles, fake planes, swapping bodies in planes, controlled demolitions etc. To plan all of this and carry it out would require hundreds or even thousands of people to be in on the deal, I find it impossible that a government would take such a massive, massive risk on such a mental idea.
 
So the BBC are in on the conspiracy now? Just think of the paperwork involved.

Well, as you seemingly know everything, surely you would be able to tell me that? I don't have the information available to the upper echelons, they managed to keep the Saville crack quiet for long enough.
 
exactly which is what the gas station cctv would clear the whole thing up, if only the FBI hadn't confiscated it minutes after
I'd say it was standard practice to collect all the CCTV footage together. To call that confiscation is being a bit melodramatic and doing abuse to the facts.

Why would gas station cctv be pointing up at the sky? that does seem rather peculiar to me, it is usually pointing at the forecourt.
 
How did they go about setting up all the TNT and wiring to demolish the towers without anyone questioning them or mentioning suspicious behaviour? I'm no expert but I imagine it would take hundreds of tons of explosives and wiring to bring down buildings the size of the WTC.

Missiles, fake planes, swapping bodies in planes, controlled demolitions etc. To plan all of this and carry it out would require hundreds or even thousands of people to be in on the deal, I find it impossible that a government would take such a massive, massive risk on such a mental idea.

I'm with Charlie Brooker on this - think of the paperwork involved :lol:
 
We are expected to beleive that the black box (specifically hardened and positioned/designed to withstand even the most horrific of crashes/impacts) was badly damaged and charred - YET they found an INTACT SEAT from the COCKPIT?

Yeah sure.....

Odd things like this happen in all plane crashes, they often find perfectly intact books, passports, bags etc. whilst everything else around them is a burning mess.

Have you not watched Air Crash Investigation? :)
 
So the BBC are in on the conspiracy now? Just think of the paperwork involved.



You still haven't really committed to what you think happened - did they use missiles on the pentagon? Fake planes? What?

the damage to the front of the building is consistent to that of what a cruise missile would do a lot more than if a jumbo jet impacted it. i believe the hidden hand who controlled these events is capable of almost anything
 
Well, as you seemingly know everything, surely you would be able to tell me that? I don't have the information available to the upper echelons, they managed to keep the Saville crack quiet for long enough.

You're the one suggesting that the BBC are in on the conspiracy mate, not me. Not sure how you've taken that to mean I know everything mind.
 
Odd things like this happen in all plane crashes, they often find perfectly intact books, passports, bags etc. whilst everything else around them is a burning mess.

Have you not watched Air Crash Investigation? :)

lol odd things happen, but a seat in the cockpit would have stood zero chance surely, its taking all the force of hitting the pentagon. Stuff further back after the plane has slowed down due to impact might be found lying around though.
 
How did they go about setting up all the TNT and wiring to demolish the towers without anyone questioning them or mentioning suspicious behaviour? I'm no expert but I imagine it would take hundreds of tons of explosives and wiring to bring down buildings the size of the WTC.

Missiles, fake planes, swapping bodies in planes, controlled demolitions etc. To plan all of this and carry it out would require hundreds or even thousands of people to be in on the deal, I find it impossible that a government would take such a massive, massive risk on such a mental idea.

i don't think it takes hundreds of tonnes like and its not tnt, its thermite
 
We are expected to beleive that the black box (specifically hardened and positioned/designed to withstand even the most horrific of crashes/impacts) was badly damaged and charred - YET they found an INTACT SEAT from the COCKPIT?

Yeah sure.....

Aye, unless you specifically want to call these firefighters liars...

Early Friday morning, shortly before 4 a.m., Burkhammer and another firefighter, Brian Moravitz, were combing through debris near the impact site. Peering at the wreckage with their helmet lights, the two spotted an intact seat from the plane’s cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached. Then they saw two odd-shaped dark boxes, about 1.5 by 2 feet long. They’d been told the plane’s “black boxes” would in fact be bright orange, but these were charred black. The boxes had handles on one end and one was torn open. They cordoned off the area and called for an FBI agent, who in turn called for someone from the National Transportation Safety Board who confirmed the find: the black boxes from American Airlines Flight 77.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100910124413/http://www.msnbc.msn.com:80/id/3069699/
 
the damage to the front of the building is consistent to that of what a cruise missile would do a lot more than if a jumbo jet impacted it. i believe the hidden hand who controlled these events is capable of almost anything

So you think that they fired a cruise missile (which looked like a plane according to eyewitnesses) into the Pentagon then left bits of bodies and airplane lying around at the site. Without anyone noticing. Is this what you are saying?
 
I'd say it was standard practice to collect all the CCTV footage together. To call that confiscation is being a bit melodramatic and doing abuse to the facts.

Why would gas station cctv be pointing up at the sky? that does seem rather peculiar to me, it is usually pointing at the forecourt.

I would classify it as confiscation, after all they still have it do they not? They wont let any one else view it will they?
A cam pointing in the wrong direction is easy, your average CCTV cam is often badly maintained.
 
I'd say it was standard practice to collect all the CCTV footage together. To call that confiscation is being a bit melodramatic and doing abuse to the facts.

Why would gas station cctv be pointing up at the sky? that does seem rather peculiar to me, it is usually pointing at the forecourt.

who says its pointing to the sky? it was pointing out across the forecourt with the entire pentagon in the background, if an airliner had approached it would have been clearly videoed on its final approach

after a landmark atrocity such as this, never been seen before, the the fbi are on the scene at a gas station within minutes to confiscate footage

i'd say this whole thing is more megadramatic myself
 
i don't think it takes hundreds of tonnes like and its not tnt, its thermite

"NIST researchers estimated that at least 0.13 pounds of thermite would be required to heat each pound of a steel section to approximately 700 degrees Celsius (the temperature at which steel weakens substantially). Therefore, while a thermite reaction can cut through large steel columns, many thousands of pounds of thermite would need to have been placed inconspicuously ahead of time, remotely ignited, and somehow held in direct contact with the surface of hundreds of massive structural components to weaken the building. This makes it an unlikely substance for achieving a controlled demolition."

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtctowers.cfm
 
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