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We did hound Bruce out though.
Aye about 8 months too late.
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We did hound Bruce out though.
Hang on a minute... HAS he persisted with it?
People on here asked for 4-4-2. They got it. Nowt changed.
People on here asked for McClean to be dropped. They got it. Nowt changed.
People on here asked for Johnson to be moved to the left. They got it. Nowt changed.
People on here asked for Gardner to be moved into midfield. They got. Nowt changed.
Seems to me that everyone has all the answers, until they proved to be phantoms at which point they pretend they never happened.
Yes, I've noticed that too. Their sole reason for it seems to be that Brian Clough was better with Peter Taylor.![]()
He played 4-4-2 once, didn't he? Likewise all of the chopping and changing you mentioned has been short lived and erratic. One off trials aren't a real test of something new are they? Another way of taking your comments by the way is that Mon is powerless to enact change for the better. Is that who you want as manager for the club? That was essentially Bruces problem during the barren spells, but I do t recall people standing up for him on the basis that his managerial decisions wern't doing anything. Why is this scenario any different?
Spot on..
We need Robertson is the new one.
The pattern is pretty obvious as to why people are suggesting this. Your alternative suggestion seems to be that in spite of any evidence to support the notion things will just get better somehow.
Yes and Boro ran us ragged.
The pattern is pretty obvious as to why people are suggesting this. Your alternative suggestion seems to be that in spite of any evidence to support the notion things will just get better somehow.
You should have said I'm not panicking like a big girls blouse..![]()
I don't doubt your not panicking but it's a decision you've made rather than a logical response to the facts. And that's fine as well, totally. But it dosent negate the potency of those facts either.
If you're suggesting that failure of a tactic should mitigate it's use then playing the way we have been for 27 odd games should mean the current plan should be similarly dumped as well. I'm not and don't advocate 442, but it's not like our current negative approach is superior to anything either
If you look at the facts,they aren't as bad as your trying to make out.
He played 4-4-2 once, didn't he? Likewise all of the chopping and changing you mentioned has been short lived and erratic. One off trials aren't a real test of something new are they? Another way of taking your comments by the way is that Mon is powerless to enact change for the better. Is that who you want as manager for the club? That was essentially Bruces problem during the barren spells, but I do t recall people standing up for him on the basis that his managerial decisions wern't doing anything. Why is this scenario any different?
I just don't think we have enough quality. I also think O'Neill could change the tactics as much as he likes, I can't see him getting the best out of them now. He'd be changing the tactics out of desperation, not because it's part of a plan and a means to an end.
O'Neill perhaps rather naively said when he was first appointed that he wanted us to play like Barcelona. We all knew we would never actually play like Barcelona but he meant, possession football and playing entertaining football. We do neither.
At the end of last season he highlighted our problems in front of goal and said that we need to be more entertaining to watch. Again, this has not been remedied. We are absolutely shocking to watch, to the point where most of the crowd are bored senseless.
If I'd seen improvements I'd be relatively content and a lot more confident. I've seen no signs of improvement and after only 2 wins in 20 games, I don't think we have enough in us at this point in time to be able to get enough wins to stay up.
True, 2 wins in 20 games is fine form.
How many goals have we scored in that time?
I just don't think we have enough quality. I also think O'Neill could change the tactics as much as he likes, I can't see him getting the best out of them now. He'd be changing the tactics out of desperation, not because it's part of a plan and a means to an end.
O'Neill perhaps rather naively said when he was first appointed that he wanted us to play like Barcelona. We all knew we would never actually play like Barcelona but he meant, possession football and playing entertaining football. We do neither.
At the end of last season he highlighted our problems in front of goal and said that we need to be more entertaining to watch. Again, this has not been remedied. We are absolutely shocking to watch, to the point where most of the crowd are bored senseless.
If I'd seen improvements I'd be relatively content and a lot more confident. I've seen no signs of improvement and after only 2 wins in 20 games, I don't think we have enough in us at this point in time to be able to get enough wins to stay up.
True, 2 wins in 20 games is fine form.
How many goals have we scored in that time?
Look if you want to get down to the depths of Leonard Cohen over the current plight fine,but don't try to drag me into your shite.
We will be fine come May and you can avoid this forum like the plague.
Bruce had 2 years to build HIS squad of players, and then couldn't get them to perform. When MON is in the same boat, I'll judge him similarly.
Until then he needs time and backing, not knee-jerks, tantrums, and blame-gaming.
Yes, I've noticed that too. Their sole reason for it seems to be that Brian Clough was better with Peter Taylor.![]()
What do you base this on? I'm just commenting on how we are currently playing and our recent results.
Home defeats off Villa, West Brom and QPR aren't going to save us.
Home defeat off QPR??
Here lies the problem with your thinking..
Just leave the fucker at that..![]()