Everyone calling for MON's head


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Took the best part of two decades to get ourselves into a position of stability in the top division after 1990. This new tv deal means the gap will be significantly larger than the one the Premier League instigated back then. Everyone not in the top division when the deal comes in will never achieve anything in it ever again. 72 clubs will effectively be cast adrift.

Relegation this season would be an absolute catastrophe.

Nonsense. If we went down we'd be be ideally positioned to make a swift return, as per usual. I have my fingers crossed same as everyone else but the stakes aren't anywhere near as high as some would like us to believe.
 
Do you want me to put the PM's up I received from you after Stoke game last season with you saying how much of a great appointment O'Neill was?

Backed myself into a corner? If you think I'm going to start demanding a manager sacked after just a year then you will be waiting a while. Aye, right corner this is.....

I'll let you carry on going on every thread going tearing the bloke apart and I'll carry on backing my opinion that he will get it right.

I'll say it again. One year. Yes, one year.

If it was Bruce you'd have been agitating two games in.

Stop fabricating an O'Neill out conspiracy in order to validate your behaviour with previous managers.
 
I made my opinions well known, I criticised him massively from August onwards and made my position very clear that I wanted him sacked. People like you, come on here, rip him apart and are too petrified to say you want him sacked incase you get it 'wrong'.

You can question his decisions without wanting him sacked
 
Exactly. Some massive rewriting of history going on here.

Isn't there just. Amazingly, seeing many of the same names who were happy enough to defend Bruce to the hilt absolutely tearing MON to bits. Christ, at least I am consistent! Manager's need a couple of years before they can be fairly judged. Bruce had that. MON should get it too.
 
I made my opinions well known, I criticised him massively from August onwards and made my position very clear that I wanted him sacked. People like you, come on here, rip him apart and are too petrified to say you want him sacked incase you get it 'wrong'.
Didn't realise you could offer criticism of the manager and still not want him sacked.

Mind you, I am getting very close to that stage now. Him and his team are utterly hopeless at the moment, he hasn't got long at all to turn this shambles around.
 
The same has been said for ages, man.

Relegation in 1990 and missing out on the start of the Premier League was supposed to be a disaster we would never recover from.

Relegation ensuring we'd enter our new Stadium outside of the top flight was supposed to be a disaster we would never recover from.

Relegation with 19 points and a load of debt was supposed to be a disaster we would never recover from.

Relegation with 15 points so soon after it was supposed to be a disaster and a stigma we'd never recover from.

In reality, with Short, the structured contracts, and the much bigger parachute payments, the club has never been in a better position to recover from a relegation. Mind, that's something I hope we never put to the test.

Disagree with your point regarding the relegation in 1990 that set the club back a decade, we were a football backwater for a while with attendances and dire football teams to reflect it.
 
I don't know what all the fuss is about
after all if you buy overpriced lower premiership players
you will end up a lower premiership side
we are were we deserve to be
 
Isn't there just. Amazingly, seeing many of the same names who were happy enough to defend Bruce to the hilt absolutely tearing MON to bits. Christ, at least I am consistent! Manager's need a couple of years before they can be fairly judged. Bruce had that. MON should get it too.

When we're in the championship
 
Nonsense. If we went down we'd be be ideally positioned to make a swift return, as per usual. I have my fingers crossed same as everyone else but the stakes aren't anywhere near as high as some would like us to believe.

not with the half hearted soft bastards that play for us we wont , personally havent got a clue who is to blame the players,MON , or both . Was buzzing when he signed and hope he turns this around but his tactics will push more away from the sol than will return
 
If it was Bruce you'd have been agitating two games in.

Stop fabricating an O'Neill out conspiracy in order to validate your behaviour with previous managers.

How many times do I need to explain this to you, please read this very carefully. Bruce had 2 and half year at it, O'Neill has had one year. I would never ever contemplate sacking a manager after a year, never have, never will.
 
Isn't there just. Amazingly, seeing many of the same names who were happy enough to defend Bruce to the hilt absolutely tearing MON to bits. Christ, at least I am consistent! Manager's need a couple of years before they can be fairly judged. Bruce had that. MON should get it too.

fair point
 
Isn't there just. Amazingly, seeing many of the same names who were happy enough to defend Bruce to the hilt absolutely tearing MON to bits. Christ, at least I am consistent! Manager's need a couple of years before they can be fairly judged. Bruce had that. MON should get it too.

how can you say that? at the moment he's taking us down, he hasnt got years he's got months...and with no signs of improvement well.....
 
Disagree with your point regarding the relegation in 1990 that set the club back a decade, we were a football backwater for a while with attendances and dire football teams to reflect it.

Not sure it had the impact many would like history to record it did. After all, the likes of Oldham, Wimbledon, Sheffield Wednesday, Luton, Ipswich, Palace, Sheffield Utd, and QPR were founder members and it didn't exactly give them an automatic advantage.
 
We are in trouble, but things can change very quickly as we are still picking up points here and there, need to win our game in hand against reading and we can have a true look at the table, would be happy with a point at norwich but cant see us getting anything against chelsea, but you never know !

Absolutely. I'm hoping they do because I'm up to the back teeth with this managerial revolving door. Sooner or later we have to give someone the time to build something here.

Mind, after reading the quote below I'm not sure if I want it to be O'Neill. ;)

At Aston Villa before the 2009 season he signed Richard Dunne, James Collins, Stephen Warnock and Habib Beye to reform his entire defence.

He also signed Stewrt Downing and Fabian Delph that same summer.
 
Isn't there just. Amazingly, seeing many of the same names who were happy enough to defend Bruce to the hilt absolutely tearing MON to bits. Christ, at least I am consistent! Manager's need a couple of years before they can be fairly judged. Bruce had that. MON should get it too.

Yep, spot on.

I honestly can't believe I'm seeing so many posters turning on a manager after just a year, quite unbelievable really.
 
How many times do I need to explain this to you, please read this very carefully. Bruce had 2 and half year at it, O'Neill has had one year. I would never ever contemplate sacking a manager after a year, never have, never will.

I agree, it is far too early to consider sacking him, the current predicament is just extremely frustrating because we are better than this. It's nowhere near the point of no return, this is certainly repairable, we just need to iron out some of the issues.

I am an advocate if giving managers as long as possible to push the club on, my only concern this season is if we finish 14th again, will that be good enough? No significant signs of improvement league wise and a pretty poor season. I wouldn't sack him for that, but think even he would be disappointed with it.
 
In the real world, progress is based on constructive criticism. Nobody should be above it.

I can't think of one poster saying 'he's shit, I never liked him, get rid'. Most have identified perfectly valid areas of improvement. Almost everyone wants him and not a new manager to sort it out.

There's no gleeful ripping to shreds here. Unlike other posters and previous managers......
 
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