Everyone calling for MON's head


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Hope you're wrong marra.

You know what might save him, our run of difficult fixtures in the run up to Xmas. He'll not be expected to win games against United, Chelsea, City and Spurs and by the time we're sat looking up QPR's arse the January window will be almost upon us, the hope that a few signings could turn things around will surface.
 
We never gave the same support to Bruce when he was going through an almost identical spell

We did, like. We backed him in the first one. We even backed him in the second one.
 
He backed himself into a corner singing his praises when Bruce was here.

He also said, "we won't go on game winless runs" :lol::lol:

He is pretty much stuck until the very end I would say.

Do you want me to put the PM's up I received from you after Stoke game last season with you saying how much of a great appointment O'Neill was?

Backed myself into a corner? If you think I'm going to start demanding a manager sacked after just a year then you will be waiting a while. Aye, right corner this is.....

I'll let you carry on going on every thread going tearing the bloke apart and I'll carry on backing my opinion that he will get it right.

I'll say it again. One year. Yes, one year.
 
This. People should accept he's not going to turn it around and therefore we should get a good manager to assess the squad before january otherwise we'll go down.

very much this.....it wouldnt bee that bad if we were showing any signs of improvement buy this isnt happening
 
Earlier on in the season, I was whinging (as, I'll freely admit, I regularly do) about the style being too negative and defensive, about the fact that the plan was too reactive, because it's not the kind of football I particularly like to see us play. But I never wanted him sacked then, because we seemed to have a plan, a strategy, and despite it not being what I'd want it felt like we were trying to do something.

But recently, especially last night, it's gone beyond that. I sat with a few people last night who are big O'Neill fans, and even they couldn't say what the strategy was supposed to be. He just looks lost now, and so the team look lost, he continually makes bizarre decisions that are impossible for even the most ardent O'Neill supporter to explain, decisions I'm not sure even he could explain. And that's really really worrying.

Something's got to give here, one way or the other. Sacking the manager isn't necessarily going to cure all ills (Howard Wilkinson, anyone?), and if I thought he was working towards something, that we were making progress somewhere (even if, as before, it was somewhere I didn't particularly want to go) I'd be far less concerned. We need to change something, to inject some new ideas and some fresh impetus into the team, and that's either got to come from O'Neill (whether it's through something he changes himself, or new backroom staff) or it's got to come from higher up, which will mean giving him the push and getting someone else in.

As it stands, I think people are being remarkably patient and forgiving considering what's happening on the pitch, but that won't last long (nor should it). He's got a window here, a window which is getting smaller by the day, to show us something to justify that continued patience. And if he doesn't, then he'll need to be replaced with someone else.
 
Like who?

Change for the sake of it doesn't always work. Likewise for getting a foreign manager in.

Using David Moyes is a good analogy. Its not so long ago that the Everton fans were calling for his head, but has turned things round. Hope we give MON the same courtesy.

I've lost count of times over the years the national phone-ins were inundated with crying Toffee fans claiming Moyes had taken the club as far as he could and it was time for change.

For the record I'm still firmly behind O'Neill, that doesn't mean I can be tarred with the "happy clapper" brush and accused of thinking everything's rosy at this moment in time, It's not.
I do have belief he's the one to finally drag this club off it's arse and make it a fixture in the top half of the league on a regular basis.
 
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Like who?

Why should we accept that he's not gonna turn it around?

I'd like to go for a foreign manager however would love to see us get Martinez from Wigan.

We don't look like turning it around and we're playing our strongest squad for most games.
 
Do you want me to put the PM's up I received from you after Stoke game last season with you saying how much of a great appointment O'Neill was?

Backed myself into a corner? If you think I'm going to start demanding a manager sacked after just a year then you will be waiting a while. Aye, right corner this is.....

I'll let you carry on going on every thread going tearing the bloke apart and I'll carry on backing my opinion that he will get it right.

I'll say it again. One year. Yes, one year.
I said he had turned it around incredibly. Ironically, we went on a poor run after that iirc. I wasn't bothered about last season, he came in and did his job. This season is where he hasn't delivered. I'm obviously disappointed in him, last season he done very well and so far this season it has been below par.

Questioning his decisions isn't ripping the bloke apart, I'm just not blind to his faults and wrong decisions like you are. As I said, you've backed yourself into a corner. I back him 100% and will never boo him or the team. You need to grow up of you think questioning him is not supporting him.
 
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The same has been said for ages, man.

Relegation in 1990 and missing out on the start of the Premier League was supposed to be a disaster we would never recover from.

Relegation ensuring we'd enter our new Stadium outside of the top flight was supposed to be a disaster we would never recover from.

Relegation with 19 points and a load of debt was supposed to be a disaster we would never recover from.

Relegation with 15 points so soon after it was supposed to be a disaster and a stigma we'd never recover from.

In reality, with Short, the structured contracts, and the much bigger parachute payments, the club has never been in a better position to recover from a relegation. Mind, that's something I hope we never put to the test.

Took the best part of two decades to get ourselves into a position of stability in the top division after 1990. This new tv deal means the gap will be significantly larger than the one the Premier League instigated back then. Everyone not in the top division when the deal comes in will never achieve anything in it ever again. 72 clubs will effectively be cast adrift.

Relegation this season would be an absolute catastrophe.
 
A period that had it been over the course of a whole season would of season us relegated.
If we go down this season it is a f***ing disaster and a one i doubt the fans or club would ever recover from

Drama queen.

Marty will turn things around.
 
Need to wind their necks in. You're making our club look very classless indeed.

We are not a club that hound out manager's. We don't need to start now.

Yes we are having a lean period atm, but if we all stick together we can come through this bad patch.

KTF. That is all.

We are in trouble, but things can change very quickly as we are still picking up points here and there, need to win our game in hand against reading and we can have a true look at the table, would be happy with a point at norwich but cant see us getting anything against chelsea, but you never know !
 
Earlier on in the season, I was whinging (as, I'll freely admit, I regularly do) about the style being too negative and defensive, about the fact that the plan was too reactive, because it's not the kind of football I particularly like to see us play. But I never wanted him sacked then, because we seemed to have a plan, a strategy, and despite it not being what I'd want it felt like we were trying to do something.

But recently, especially last night, it's gone beyond that. I sat with a few people last night who are big O'Neill fans, and even they couldn't say what the strategy was supposed to be. He just looks lost now, and so the team look lost, he continually makes bizarre decisions that are impossible for even the most ardent O'Neill supporter to explain, decisions I'm not sure even he could explain. And that's really really worrying.

Something's got to give here, one way or the other. Sacking the manager isn't necessarily going to cure all ills (Howard Wilkinson, anyone?), and if I thought he was working towards something, that we were making progress somewhere (even if, as before, it was somewhere I didn't particularly want to go) I'd be far less concerned. We need to change something, to inject some new ideas and some fresh impetus into the team, and that's either got to come from O'Neill (whether it's through something he changes himself, or new backroom staff) or it's got to come from higher up, which will mean giving him the push and getting someone else in.

As it stands, I think people are being remarkably patient and forgiving considering what's happening on the pitch, but that won't last long (nor should it). He's got a window here, a window which is getting smaller by the day, to show us something to justify that continued patience. And if he doesn't, then he'll need to be replaced with someone else.

great post.....the window shuts on sunday imo if you look at the run we have coming up , the last two games plus norwich were so so vital to our season alas it hasnt worked out even if we get 3 points on sunday with our run it probably wont mean a thing
 
This coming from a man who for months had an avatar which said ''Steve Bruce is a wanker'' while he was still our manager.

I made my opinions well known, I criticised him massively from August onwards and made my position very clear that I wanted him sacked. People like you, come on here, rip him apart and are too petrified to say you want him sacked incase you get it 'wrong'.
 
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