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You really are blinkered aren't you? :lol::lol: De Gea isn't standing, he's crouched and Sigurdsson's head is directly in his vision of where the ball is when it's deflected.

Even with the vagueness of the offside rule it's seems to be the reason why VAR ruled it out as no doubt the majoority of people don't know about the deflection/rebound part of offside and it not just being when the ball is initially played.

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Wrong quoted post! :lol: It's this post


1. De Gea is wrong footed and is already committed to diving the opposite way

2. De Gea can also clearly see DCL and where he is aiming for - as far as im concerned if it deflects off one of their defenders thats not any of our players faults

3. DCL's shot is going the opposite way to Gylfi's position hence why De Gea is diving that way - Maguire's deflection takes it towards Siggurdsson who can do nothing about that

4. Sigurdsson actively gets out of the way of the ball in order to avoid the offside

Yes rules are grey and not clear cut but thats where common sense and proper officiating comes into it - they took literally 10 seconds to check when in reality its a difficult decision to look at.

As said other leagues dont have this issue so why is their so much controvery this season in English football? Are the refs really that crap or is it bent?

You tell me.
 
I'm not a bitter Bluenose but they have definitely been wronged today imo.

VAR has to stop, and now.

I can remember some shocking decisions against us in the past, such as:

Mcallister's dive 3 yards outside the box which was given as a penalty.

The Villa centre half and goalie colliding in the last minute when we scored, only for the incompetent Graham Poll to disallow it.

The diabolical handball that Andy Cole committed and Graham Poll then sent off Mickey Gray for complaining against an outrageous decision.

OGS falling over a sprinkler and getting a free kick from which United scored a lare equaliser against us.

Shit happens. But rather that than VAR as it often givesthe wrong decision anyway, such as today, Liverpool's first goal against Man City which should have been a penalty to City, and many more.
 
It wasn’t like .

It was a let’s not upset Man Utd decision

Look at the picture on this thread ffs I can’t even believe it’s being discussed.

You might have a point (you wouldn’t) if it was at Old Trafford but in front of the biggest set of whining bastards in English football I’m pretty sure they’d be more interested in not upsetting Everton.

Surreal this, one of the most obviously correct decisions you could ever see
 
Look at the picture on this thread ffs I can’t even believe it’s being discussed.

You might have a point (you wouldn’t) if it was at Old Trafford but in front of the biggest set of whining bastards in English football I’m pretty sure they’d be more interested in not upsetting Everton.

Surreal this, one of the most obviously correct decisions you could ever see

In my opinion it was a fair goal.

In your opinion it wasn’t .

Let’s shake hands and walk off .
 
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Oh look two footballing men in Gray and Alladyce calling it for what it is.

Oh and comments from all random clubs fans all saying it was a wrong call

Butbut but the WUMS, Kopites and self proclaimed Everton haters on here are taking still images to try show how Sigurdsson sat on the floor impedes De Gea who is diving the opposite way obviously seeing DCL's shot :lol:
 
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Oh look two footballing men in Gray and Alladyce calling it for what it is.

Oh and comments from all random clubs fans all saying it was a wrong call

Butbut but the WUMS, Kopites and self proclaimed Everton haters on here are taking still images to try show how Sigurdsson sat on the floor impedes De Gea who is diving the opposite way obviously seeing DCL's shot :lol:
Oh you like Allardyce today then
 
Look at the picture on this thread ffs I can’t even believe it’s being discussed.

You might have a point (you wouldn’t) if it was at Old Trafford but in front of the biggest set of whining bastards in English football I’m pretty sure they’d be more interested in not upsetting Everton.

Surreal this, one of the most obviously correct decisions you could ever see

Bless - you been touched by one of our fans or something? We literally stood shoulder to shoulder with you over Little Bradley you daft sod.
 
1. De Gea is wrong footed and is already committed to diving the opposite way

2. De Gea can also clearly see DCL and where he is aiming for - as far as im concerned if it deflects off one of their defenders thats not any of our players faults

3. DCL's shot is going the opposite way to Gylfi's position hence why De Gea is diving that way - Maguire's deflection takes it towards Siggurdsson who can do nothing about that

4. Sigurdsson actively gets out of the way of the ball in order to avoid the offside

Yes rules are grey and not clear cut but thats where common sense and proper officiating comes into it - they took literally 10 seconds to check when in reality its a difficult decision to look at.

As said other leagues dont have this issue so why is their so much controvery this season in English football? Are the refs really that crap or is it bent?

You tell me.
1. Doesn't matter as it's not in the rules to question if a keeper will make the save or not.

2. Also the moment of DCL passing is not relevant in this incident as it's the deflection.

3. De Gea can't clearly see the deflection nor the initial path of the ball after the deflection due to obstructed view which is classed as 'interfering with an opponent'.

4. Again nowt to do with the rules but some may say he 'played' the ball as it would have hit him and not went in but that's irrelevant again

So only point 3 is relevant to the rules as everyone can clearly see, Sigurdsson is in De Gea's vision when the ball is deflected. That means he's interfering at this point so now I'll repeat the OR part of the offside rule for you as it's not the point of passing but rather the deflection that needs to be used.

or
  • gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
  • rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent


We all agree that when DCL takes the shot De Gea's view is fully clear yet VAR has given the reason as to why it was offside was due to Sigurdsson being in De Gea's view. I'd presume the reason why is what I've explained already and given it's in the rules then it's harsh but correct.
 
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Bless - you been touched by one of our fans or something? We literally stood shoulder to shoulder with you over Little Bradley you daft sod.

Wow imagine bringing that up in this discussion 😒

In other words ‘shut up and agree with everything Everton forever’ I think that’s me out of this one.
 
Wow imagine bringing that up in this discussion 😒

In other words ‘shut up and agree with everything Everton forever’ I think that’s me out of this one.
Shows what an arsehole he is
Imagine had that been on Martial :lol:

And people wonder why our officials no longer get invited to major footballing tournaments...
Every decision against you doesn't have to be an agenda
 
Wow imagine bringing that up in this discussion 😒

In other words ‘shut up and agree with everything Everton forever’ I think that’s me out of this one.

I just find the anti Everton hysteria from some on here strange when you'll not find a fanbase or club that did something good for your club - I think a few forget that when you do nothing but slate our fans and club and call them bastards etc. Maybe reign it in a little eh?
 
@EverBlue86 you need to relax Blue, they score that at the other end and we'd be screaming for offside and be livid if it stood.

It's a bitter pill as an Everton fan to take but I'm more annoyed that Siggy didn't score, DCL didn't score when one on one, Richarlison didn't knock the header in, we did enough to take all three points despite UTD being strong in the first half.

Shit happens, still making progress under Carlo and let's see what he can do with his own men.
 
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Oh look two footballing men in Gray and Alladyce calling it for what it is.

Oh and comments from all random clubs fans all saying it was a wrong call

Butbut but the WUMS, Kopites and self proclaimed Everton haters on here are taking still images to try show how Sigurdsson sat on the floor impedes De Gea who is diving the opposite way obviously seeing DCL's shot :lol:
That means fuck all and Gray keeps mentioning Maguire's deflection so clearly doesn't know the OR part of the offside rule! The same goes for random clubs fans as they won't know how to interpret the rules.

The commentator mentioned that VAR gave the reason as being Sigurdsson being in De Gea's vision. You don't honestly think that VAR thought Sigurdsson was blocking De Gea's view when DCL took the shot now do you?

As I said harsh but I can see why they've ruled it out if that's the way you are supposed to interpret the rules.
 
@EverBlue86 you need to relax Blue, they score that at the other end and we'd be screaming for offside and be livid if it stood.

It's a bitter pill as an Everton fan to take but I'm more annoyed that Siggy didn't score, DCL didn't score when one on one, Richarlison didn't knock the header in, we did enough to take all three points despite UTD being strong in the first half.

Shit happens, still making progress under Carlo and let's see what he can do with his own men.

Mate if they scored that I wouldn't have had a problem as for me its a perfectly good goal.

Had the ball hit siggurdsson as it went in 100% offside but he's doing nothing in that passage of play to effect the game and is only there after being clattered by their defender trying to block his shot on goal.

The games gone to the dogs when its ruled out for that it just is.

The english refs are God awful and are encouraged not to look at the monitor themselves in games whereas every other leagues refs do it - farce pal.
 
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