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Its corruption and its blatant - that doesnt get ruled out for Manchester Utd and thats my problem.

End of the day Siggurdsson is sat down De Gea is stood up and Calvert Lewins shot is deflected off a Utd player - how they can say Siggurdsson was stopping De Gea from saving that shot I'll never know.

Why cant teams just stick one of their own defenders in front of their own keeper therefore every goal should be ruled off if thats all it takes :lol:
In the USA here every pundit said it was a goal they broke it down with the rules in front of them. Please note player on the floor Goalkeeper had full vision. Was going the other way due to a wick deflection of Man Utd player. The fact it was ruled a goal you have to tell me way not? It did not touch the player on the ground. Players moving his knees did not block the sight of the keeper. VAR you should be ashamed of yourself. I can see this happening to Sunderland one day.
 
Nobody could accuse you of that being an Everton fan :lol:

Aye proper supporters.

Atleast glory hunter Chops is good enough to get bites you're just the forum Alan Brazil I literally laugh whenever you try it on with me you get nothing outta me m8 sorry.
 
I would like to see benefit of doubt going to attacking side in these instances but by letter of law they’re in line of sight of keeper therefore it’s the correct decision.

All these conspiracy theorists are heed the balls.
Well fuck me I must be wrong if I'm agreeing with you because I'd say Sigurdsson is clearly in De Gea's view when the ball is deflected. Tihs is the important bit in the OR section quoted further down this post. Is this the reason why VAR must now see Sigurdsson 'offside' as it affects De Gea's reaction time due to not having the full view of the path of the ball. Just because De Gea possibly won't save it shouldn't matter should it?


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:edit: I see this rule regarding a deflection off an opponent in the FA Rules is probably why it was ruled out. It's not when the shot was taken but it's probably due to the fact Sigurdsson was interferring with De Gea's line of vision at the point of the deflection, regardless of whether De Gea would have saved it or not doesn't matter. I've highlighted the parts of the rules I think come into play due to the line of vision at the time of the deflection.

Offside offence

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:
  • interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
  • interfering with an opponent by:
  • preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
  • challenging an opponent for the ball or
  • clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
  • making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball

*The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used

or
  • gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
  • rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent

 
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In the USA here every pundit said it was a goal they broke it down with the rules in front of them. Please note player on the floor Goalkeeper had full vision. Was going the other way due to a wick deflection of Man Utd player. The fact it was ruled a goal you have to tell me way not? It did not touch the player on the ground. Players moving his knees did not block the sight of the keeper. VAR you should be ashamed of yourself. I can see this happening to Sunderland one day.

Referees have their hands tied by our demand for consistency. If that goal is allowed then they have to allow every goal where the player is in the line of the ball between attacker and goalkeeper otherwise there is an uproar.
 
Aye proper supporters.

Atleast glory hunter Chops is good enough to get bites you're just the forum Alan Brazil I literally laugh whenever you try it on with me you get nothing outta me m8 sorry.
I couldn’t care less wether you reply or not. If you talk shite I’ll pull you up.
Hence I end up responding to quite a few of your posts 🤣
 
If it was at Old Tafford, it would 100% be awarded a goal.

VAR is a f***ing disgrace and needs to be scrapped immediately, even if you end up getting 1 or 2 decisions wrong per season its still better than this. You can't even celebrate a goal any more.

VAR is a disgrace and I agree, but in this particular case, it's about interpretation of a poorly written rule, so it would vary massively by referee not by ground
 
Lets see how you would feel if you get back up to the prem and this sort of decision gets you relegated - every clubs fans outside of the elite cabal should be on the authorities backs over these corrupt decisions.

Yes because Sunderland have never had a decision go against them in the history of the game?

But it is offside in this case, can't complain
 
Referees have their hands tied by our demand for consistency. If that goal is allowed then they have to allow every goal where the player is in the line of the ball between attacker and goalkeeper otherwise there is an uproar.
He was lying on the floor Goalkeeper going the other way they deflected it in....I am sorry it’s common sense plus it was ruled a goal before VAR looks at it...
 
How’s he interfering with play when De Gea is wrongfooted by the deflection? You’re saying that if he wasn’t on the floor, De Gea would have stood his ground and saved it? He is not affecting the play at all, the keeper has moved direction and it’s going in the back of the net no matter if he’s there or not.

we will never know if he’d have saved it but when a player is 5 yards from the goal line and moves his legs last minute to let a shot go in of course he’s interfering ffs 😅

Never seen people try so hard to find controversy where there is none
 
Well fuck me I must be wrong if I'm agreeing with you because I'd say Sigurdsson is clearly in De Gea's view when the ball is deflected. Tihs is the important bit in the OR section quoted further down this post. Is this the reason why VAR must now see Sigurdsson 'offside' as it affects De Gea's reaction time due to not having the full view of the path of the ball. Just because De Gea possibly won't save it shouldn't matter should it?


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:edit: I see this rule regarding a deflection off an opponent in the FA Rules is probably why it was ruled out. It's not when the shot was taken but it's probably due to the fact Sigurdsson was interferring with De Gea's line of vision at the point of the deflection, regardless of whether De Gea would have saved it or not doesn't matter. I've highlighted the parts of the rules I think come into play due to the line of vision at the time of the deflection.

Offside offence

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:
  • interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
  • interfering with an opponent by:
  • preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
  • challenging an opponent for the ball or
  • clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
  • making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball

*The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used

or
  • gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
  • rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent

He’s clearly in his line of vision. I dong even see how it’s up for debate.
Like I say I’d much prefer the attackers to get benefit of doubt but until the rules change this type of incident will always have the same outcome regardless of who is playing.
 
Sigurdsson is obstructing De Gea's view as it's not just when the ball is kicked. Look at this snapshot and you can see Sigurdsson is blocking De Gea's view of the deflected ball.

If Sigurdsson isn't there then De Gea may well have seen it more clearly and reacted to save it (I will hoy a gif up to show what I mean). De Gea seems to move to his right but only after it's hit Maguire's foot as he thinks it's going that way.

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this should be the end of it really. I don’t get it at all, it’s not remotely controversial
 
He was lying on the floor Goalkeeper going the other way they deflected it in....I am sorry it’s common sense plus it was ruled a goal before VAR looks at it...

I was listening to Andy Gray and Alladyce earlier and they were spot on the officials simply haven't a clue because they havent played the game.

Fans just want commom sense officiating - why are ex professional players not getting gigs in officiating or trained in VAR?

Theres a reason why no English ref gets a gig in the world cup and its because they are garbage.
 
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