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Last season appears to be a total fluke as far as Martinez was concerned. They've been shambolic at the back all season and Leicester looked dangerous every time they went forward.
He's overrated imo. Never managed to get a defence together that looks like they can remotely defend. He's been at Everton a year and he's turned a solid defence into an absolute calamity
 
Last season appears to be a total fluke as far as Martinez was concerned. They've been shambolic at the back all season and Leicester looked dangerous every time they went forward.
They've made some howlers defensively not sure how Martinez can take the blame for individual errors even then they've only conceded 1 more goal than 6th place Spurs
 
cashed out Leicester win and lumped on the draw also backed spurs draw at 1-2 v west ham , got the draw Southampton wonder if another 2-2 is on the cards
 
They've made some howlers defensively not sure how Martinez can take the blame for individual errors even then they've only conceded 1 more goal than 6th place Spurs
Why do the Everton fans who watch them regularly seem to want him out? Seems premature but you hear some right abuse about him on message boards/phone ins.
 
Got to be an Everton win for me. It's shit that we are once again watching games wanting certain results instead of just being able to sit and enjoy them

The worst thing other than us being shit is wanting the mags to win games against our relegation rivals.
We need them to beat villa nxt week but got horrible feeling it will be Sherwoods first win.
Mags defence is woeful - Colocinni, Williamson and Haidara are poor. Tiote might be overrated, but they miss him, and Colback now out for 2 games. Even Dummett is better than who are playing at the moment but hes fkd and misses rest of season. Can see a 2-1 villa win.

Everton are shite like.
Wtf has happened to berkley - hes just lost it and how many chances does lukaku miss ?

He's overrated imo. Never managed to get a defence together that looks like they can remotely defend. He's been at Everton a year and he's turned a solid defence into an absolute calamity

Aye this great manager who took wigan down
 
The worst thing other than us being shit is wanting the mags to win games against our relegation rivals.
We need them to beat villa nxt week but got horrible feeling it will be Sherwoods first win.
Mags defence is woeful - Colocinni, Williamson and Haidara are poor. Tiote might be overrated, but they miss him, and Colback now out for 2 games. Even Dummett is better than who are playing at the moment but hes fkd and misses rest of season. Can see a 2-1 villa win.


Wtf has happened to berkley - hes just lost it and how many chances does lukaku miss ?



Aye this great manager who took wigan down
I agree about wanting the Mags to win I absolutely hate being in that position it makes me feel dirty
 
I wonder if we win the EL will people still slag him off? The backtracking in the media would be hilarious with suddenly "martinez target for arsenal again"

Saw positives today but again Howard was a hopeless twat, these things happen look at Klopps season at Dortmund they look worse than us atm. Moyes also finished 17th in his second season at the club
 
They've made some howlers defensively not sure how Martinez can take the blame for individual errors even then they've only conceded 1 more goal than 6th place Spurs

If they had made just a few howlers I'd see where you're coming from but they've been like that all season. He's not been helped by the fact that Howard and Distin have had dreadful seasons and look finished but his Wigan sides were constantly atrocious defensively as well.

To be honest I hope he proves me wrong, think he's one of the more likeable managers in the league and I think he does have potential to be a decent manager but he seriously needs to work on the defensive side of the game.

I wonder if we win the EL will people still slag him off? The backtracking in the media would be hilarious with suddenly "martinez target for arsenal again"

Saw positives today but again Howard was a hopeless twat, these things happen look at Klopps season at Dortmund they look worse than us atm. Moyes also finished 17th in his second season at the club

Klopp has proven over a sustained period of time that he's a very good manager, Martinez hasn't as of yet.
 
If they had made just a few howlers I'd see where you're coming from but they've been like that all season. He's not been helped by the fact that Howard and Distin have had dreadful seasons and look finished but his Wigan sides were constantly atrocious defensively as well.

To be honest I hope he proves me wrong, think he's one of the more likeable managers in the league and I think he does have potential to be a decent manager but he seriously needs to work on the defensive side of the game.



Klopp has proven over a sustained period of time that he's a very good manager, Martinez hasn't as of yet.

Agree but Klopps been manager in a 1 team league mate, he also got relegated with Mainz likewise Martinez with Wigan. Both have won silverware. Both have also looked fantastic in European competitions.

I've been as peeved off with him as most fans but like I said last season the 72 points total would have gotten us Champions League in any other season, this season he has been poor but still have the EL to play for, for me if we're still the same come October/november next season then he needs to go, but the last thing we need is to go down the road of sacking managers every season imo
 
He's overrated imo. Never managed to get a defence together that looks like they can remotely defend. He's been at Everton a year and he's turned a solid defence into an absolute calamity

Completely agree. Under Moyes, no-one fancied going to Goodison. They are one of the games you look to pick up points from now as their defence is so shoddy.
 
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