Everton bid £18m for Sunderland defender Lamine Kone


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Is that what we've got like? We've got 4 CB's, O'Shea, Kone, Kaboul and Djilibodji. The other lads are predominantly midfielders, that being McNair/ Kirchoff etc
It is what you implied was needed. Yes I agree it would be undesirable to have Love and Rodwell together at CB - how likely is that going to be? Kaboul, Djilobodji, McNair, O'Shea and Kirchhoff would all need to be unavailable at the same time. That may happen once if you're really unlucky. Should we have have another 2 experienced, quality CBs sitting on their arses all season not even making the bench just in case? What about every other position? If we're going reductio ad absurdum, what if the 1st and 2nd choice players in every position get injured? Should we buy another, entire matchday squad of first-team standard players just in case? Should bring our summer spending to about 857m and a wage bill outstripping the GDP of Germany.

Kirchhoff has spent the majority of his career at CB, and McNair is a utility player - who has again, spent most of his time at CB.
 
If we get £20million for Kone, how about;
Fellaini £20million
Januzaj Loan
M'vila £3.5million (rumoured fee)
Sakho £15million
Right back??
With incoming fee's and Allardyce compensation it's only about a net spend of £25-30 million which should be well within budget!

Brilliant logic that like. The highlighted figure is roughly the amount the club is losing every year.
 
Well without spending anywhere near that we'll lose a whole lot more going into the championship! I think i'd take my logic over your's!

As ever, that's fine when its not our money.

A balance has to be struck sooner or later to run the club more cost effectively, and maintain Premiership status. I know its a tough ask, but no business can continue losing money at the rate our club is. It just isn't sustainable.
 
Well without spending anywhere near that we'll lose a whole lot more going into the championship! I think i'd take my logic over your's!
I wouldn't. By your reasoning, Jack Rodwell is a preferable signing to Jan Kirchhoff.

I really would have thought, given that Newcastle spent 400m pounds last season and got relegated, that this obsession with spending money upon money would cease. What is spent us irrelevant, it is what you spend it on.
 
As ever, that's fine when its not our money.

A balance has to be struck sooner or later to run the club more cost effectively, and maintain Premiership status. I know its a tough ask, but no business can continue losing money at the rate our club is. It just isn't sustainable.
I get what your saying but we can't afford to just stand still as a club, teams that have came up have overtaken us, we've got no ambition as a club but to just scrape survival! I don't think Moyes would have took the job on unless he was promised a bit of money, not masses of money but enough to compete hence selling Kone to raise further funds!

I wouldn't. By your reasoning, Jack Rodwell is a preferable signing to Jan Kirchhoff.

I really would have thought, given that Newcastle spent 400m pounds last season and got relegated, that this obsession with spending money upon money would cease. What is spent us irrelevant, it is what you spend it on.
True but we have to bring players in and in todays market that costs money, we can't afford to stand still as a club!
 
As ever, that's fine when its not our money.

A balance has to be struck sooner or later to run the club more cost effectively, and maintain Premiership status. I know its a tough ask, but no business can continue losing money at the rate our club is. It just isn't sustainable.
Our income will in all likelihood increase by at least as much as our latest losses in the current season.
 
Kone is 27 now and after spending most of his career in France then I'd guess he'd not be on a fortune over there.

If Everton have offered him a 5 yr deal on almost double the money he's on here then who can blame him deep down.

He's reached the promise land of the premier league now and his agent will be telling him all sorts.
 
Looks to me he wants to stay on an improved contract rather than leaving. Maybe Kone is the victim in a mess between the club and his agent.
 
It is what you implied was needed. Yes I agree it would be undesirable to have Love and Rodwell together at CB - how likely is that going to be? Kaboul, Djilobodji, McNair, O'Shea and Kirchhoff would all need to be unavailable at the same time. That may happen once if you're really unlucky. Should we have have another 2 experienced, quality CBs sitting on their arses all season not even making the bench just in case? What about every other position? If we're going reductio ad absurdum, what if the 1st and 2nd choice players in every position get injured? Should we buy another, entire matchday squad of first-team standard players just in case? Should bring our summer spending to about 857m and a wage bill outstripping the GDP of Germany.

Kirchhoff has spent the majority of his career at CB, and McNair is a utility player - who has again, spent most of his time at CB.
I implied nothing of the sort. I was making the point that you can't justify the sale of Kone by suggesting that it's OK because Love, McNair, Rodwell et al can play there if needs be. You obviously think otherwise but I don't think it's that ridiculous to have 4 centre backs on the books like. McNair has said himself he is a midfielder BTW. And by your logic we shouldn't sign M'Vila as now we have Cattermole, Rodwell, Larsson, Kirchoff, McNair etc who can play midfield.

The crux of this, is that if/when Kone leaves, we are relying on Kaboul, Djilibodji and O'Shea at centre back. Kaboul is injury prone, Djilibodji is somewhat of an unknown, O'Shea is a good pro but will probably have to play far more this season that we would want him to, if we were looking to progress. Why take the risk?
 
Repeated the fookwit interviewer comment "Moyes is not for him" or summatt may have been lost in translation but didn't look that clever
He never even said that he meant it's for
Moyes to decide not me and people are ducking twisting it for some reason!!!

He was asked if he wanted to stay and said yes it's not for me it's for moyes meaning it's not his decision it's upto moyes
 
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