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If it happens I can see them still buying players for cash from non ESL clubs.
But I can also see players being encouraged to run down their contracts at non ESL clubs then going into a US style draft system with all that yellow tied twattishness taking part on a separate biggest night in football display of idiocy on live TV. I’ve probably just given them an idea havent I?
Jim whites buying a new tie with the logo as we speak
 
You know absolutely fuck all. Short spent an absolute fortune on SAFC and spent it horrendously. He took over when we were in the prem, spent a fortune, lost a fortune, gave the club away and left us in league one. Why comment on something you have no idea about.

'oh I have friends on the board' woopy fuckin doo that might impress the other cockney virgins down your local wine bar but no one gives a fuck here.

Have yourself a double relegation and 4 seasons in the third tier and come back and tell us how many fans you have then and how much of a big club you are.

The second you aren't competing at the top of the premier League the toys are out of the pram, if you had anywhere close to what we have been served up you'd have an empty stadium every match.

The only thing it's got to do with money is that we had too much of it through the door and had thick fuckers in charge of spending it

Cockney virgins down your local wine bar! :lol: :lol:
 
The CL drove the cost of competing with the top end of the PL up. PL payout differentials positional wise are next to nowt in the grand scheme of things. Finishing 4th then making the PL group stages is a massive financial gain over finishing 5th.
What is the cut of the pie in League 1. Its about £475,000 in League 2. A bit less than £100m i am sure you agree. Do PL clubs get 0•47% of CL Money.
 
Kick all 6 out of the EPL and EFL. Penalize them all any revenues from the EPL and Uefa competitions for this season. And take the names away from them where possible - probably all of them except Arsenal. Bring in emergency legislation to compulsory purchase their grounds where
Cloud cuckoo land mate. There is not a legal challenge that can be won for removing revenue from matches they have already played or from stripping a business of it's trademarks.
Best thing that could happen out of this is that government bring in legislation forcing the FA to adopt a rule that all clubs in the pyramid system must be minimum 51% fan owned and preferably find a legal way to make it affordable for them to make that 51% acquisition.
 
4 or the 6 greed league members are apparently carrying quite a bit of debt

Hypothetically could City and Chelsea accept punishments from the PL and the FA join up with the remaining 14 teams and dump Liverpool, United, Tottenham and Arsenal from the Premier League to the Vanarama National League or lower

From an invest to win completions point of view whatever fine both clubs get hit with would be nothing to the cost of not competing with these 4 clubs for 5+ years

If City and Chelsea hold their hands up and apologise, then I’d let them off with nothing more than a small fine - but they need to denounce the competition ASAP. The other four should be given a deadline of noon on Friday to walk away from the ESL or face relegation to League 2
 
Rumours are it’s falling apart already. Lots of conflict apparently behind the scenes.

It remains that the various authorities could stop it but won’t need to if a few leave it massively loses its appeal
 
For me personally, because (rightly or wrongly) the Glazers may never have acquired the club without the fall out with the Irish investors. Petty I know but that's me :lol:
Spot on that. Ferguson's greed got the better of him - taking the major shareholders of the club who employed him to court to fight a case he had zero chance of winning was a monumental fuck up.
 
If City and Chelsea hold their hands up and apologise, then I’d let them off with nothing more than a small fine - but they need to denounce the competition ASAP. The other four should be given a deadline of noon on Friday to walk away from the ESL or face relegation to League 2

If you give them a deadline they learn nothing.

You kick all of them out if they've signed papers elsewhere.
 
Listen mate I have had a season ticket at Spurs for many decades my 2 boys are 24 and 25 and have had season tickets for 21 years I have 5 season tickets in total at Spurs, I know all about football both on and off the pitch, my family are frlends with 2 board members, fact is in the modern game money talks virtually any successful football team near the top of the football pyramid are backed by owners money or money generated by the club itself if they are big enough to do so.

Lack of money is obviously why Sunderland have struggled recently as soon as Short stopped subsidising Sunderland the shit hit the fan unfortunately for your fans and your great club, and you are still trying to recover from that scenario.
A few questions, one word answer please

Do you support the decision of Spurs to join this new league?
Do you believe Spurs are motivated by greed? (Reportly over 1/2 billion in debt)
Will you continue to watch Spurs if they are excluded from all other domestic & European football?
How will you feel as an ST holder watching a North London derby being played in say Tokyo?
Do you feel Spurs merit a place as one of the top 20 teams in Europe?
 
So will the transfer market still work with the league? Will it be trades like the American sports? Or are they expecting to slum it with the mortals in the domestic leagues and then jet off mid week and complain about too many games in the season.

It will be like American Football; hoover up talent from the national leagues (larger salaries for the players etc.) we may even see a sort of "draft pick" type scenario then trades within ESL teams but these will be limited by numbers I imagine. Need to keep refreshing interest in what will be a stale system otherwise.
 
Anything major happened today? Haven’t had a chance to catch up
They are/aren't going to do it, they can/can't be kicked out of the leagues, it's all falling apart/they are more united than ever. Sums it up.
Wolves and Southampton are having twitter bantz
 
Rumours are it’s falling apart already. Lots of conflict apparently behind the scenes.

It remains that the various authorities could stop it but won’t need to if a few leave it massively loses its appeal
Falling apart where though? The Spanish and Italian clubs have been desperate to find a way of stopping the English clubs leaving them behind financially. If clubs like Barca, Madrid, Juve still want it then the likes of Liverpool and Man United will still be in there like rats up a drainpipe.
 
Absolutely fascinating to see how this is panning out.
They have massively underestimated how much football means to people in this country and massively overestimated their importance. They haven't even discussed it with managers, players or God forbid their fans.
I really hope this can be a turning point against greed in the game.
 
I'd take letting Chelsea and Man City off Scot free if they pull out and spoil the party. Then hammer the other four down to the very bottom league and make them work their way back up.

Chelsea and City are ***** as well but sometimes you have to play politics to win. Get them in board and sell the other four down the river.
 
This may well be bullshit but it came from a friend of a friend who was present at the meeting Woodward held with the players and staff yesterday. Woodward mentioned the club debt and asked all the players if they pulled out of the ESL who would be prepared to tear up their current contracts and resign new ones at 50% of the wages. Surprise, Surprise there was a stony silence from the players.
The players should only consider taking a reduced wage for playing when the Glazers stop taking multi million pound dividends for doing nowt
 
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