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That Everton statement is absolutely f***ing nauseating, overwrought bollocks. They would 100% jump at the chance if they'd been invited. They couldn't give a shit about "Leicester City, Accrington Stanley, Gillingham, Lincoln City, Morecambe, Southend United, Notts County".
Really? Bayern said no, Porto said no, PSG said no, Dortmund said no, Ajax have not committed either way

why would Everton be different to them?
 
The thing is it has to be stopped outright, we can't have the PL negotiate a financial package to allow them to be in the ESL and PL at the same time .

The clubs in the ESL have no intention of treating the premier league as nothing more then a B team and making sure the full squads are available to the midweek games. This under values the PL just as much as kicking them out and goes against rules for putting out weakened sides.
 
is a nightmare scenario possible for the big 6 where the ESL crumbles due to teams backing out and then they are subsequently sent to the wall for signing up to the idea for 23 years?

if so image the damage done to them. i Could see their players jumping ship to clubs that remain in the premier league. I imagine shirt sales for them would go down as well. Revenue would be down possibly due to some backlash from the fans and who would pay Arsenal’s ticket prices to see them play in the lower leagues.

it would be one hell of a statement to the rest of the clubs in England.
This won't end well for anybody . The genies out the bottle now. The greed league have contractually committed to this ... but have to accept they've forfeited they privileges as part of urfa. The rest of the uefa have forfeited the revenues and kudos of their membership. Both league systems are therefore diminished

This will end in an arms race for revenues , hearts and minds
 
Legally I think it’s difficult to stop them. I reckon they could be voted out of domestic competition but banning players from playing for their country seems a very questionable option. Difficult to stop an individual taking a better paid job.
Banning players from playing for their country is easy. It's not an England national team, it's a representative team of the English FA. That's all international football really is, representatives from each FA. That's why England's badge is the FA badge, that's why white and blue are the home colours not the white and red you'd expect from the flag. If these players aren't playing in FA sanctioned competition they cannot represent the FA and the tournaments arranged by the federations of the various football associations.
 
I don't know how this will pan out. I'm sure these clubs have had a LOT of time to prepare their treason and the legality of it. Even if they didn't expect it to become political.

BUT if this falls on its face, I wonder what the repercussions will be. It seems to me absolutely impossible they will be allowed to continue as they used to without heavy punishments.

The PL will give them some token fine or something and they'll crack on
 
And they got them cheques from the community that paid for the club's for 100 years.

We don't need to continue this conversation because you clearly don't understand the true nature of the sport.
i do understand it....clubs that have owners subsidising them win trophies in the oremier league era...
safc fans need ti decude if they want to be a community club or a rich mans toy..man utd liverpool chelsea decided they want the latter and niw are whining that the rich man wants to do something for the money he put in...simple..
 
If they can't kick them out of the PL, ultimately all the English clubs could just start a new league, with a new TV deal (post 2024). Then they can have their English mini league and ESL.
 
It'll never happen but they should kick all 6 of them out of the football league.

It's shit for the fans, but if their owners want an international franchise then let them have it. But it can't be at the detriment of every other club in the English football pyramid.
 
I have no idea, but how much are tv rights worth in Asia? Isn't it the foreign armchair fans this is aimed at?

Overseas rights on total are, I think, about 40% of the current deal. Both domestic and overseas rights will probably fall in value, but they'll still be there. For Sky in particular, the PL will be essential to filling weekend schedules, so the deal could be bigger than you might think. Clubs will have a season or so to plan for this, and, if the big 6 were removed, pressure on fees and wages could be reduced, allowing them to cut costs but still remain competitive. The people who will be most affected are the players, who will be getting far lower offers than before, which I couldn't give a shit about. We could actually get a much more competitive PL.
 
Catching up on this thread and too many people are speaking from the heart and not the head, I understand it but they are speaking as fans not owners. All this talk of kick them out of this, that and the other. Other clubs need to find a way of getting some trickle down money from this, need to find a way of keeping the EPL television revenues at the level they are and the trickle down from that. Their business model now relies on it, a lot of clubs are going bankrupt without this level of TV cash to prop up their contracted wage bills.
As fans most of us see that football needs a 'reset' and almost needs to start again with or without these clubs but the owners are not going to view it this way, their priority as club owners will be keeping revenue levels as high as possble to survive. UEFA need to tread a very fine line because drastic actions that impact the revenues of clubs will lead to even less support from club owners. From the clubs POV, I think they will be more interested in trying to negotiate some financial recompense from the ESL than kicking clubs and players out of competions that generate the cash they need to survive. Whatever we think as fans the game is all about the money now and I don't see a way that changes.
Absolutely spot on mate, I have been pissing myself laughing at some of the triggered hot headed “chuck them all out” responses on here, the finances of the Premier League would crash and burn without the so called big six and that would cause absolute financial chaos to the remaining clubs in the League.

I can assure anyone that the vast majority of Premier League chairman wouldn’t even dream of upsetting the apple cart despite any bravado talk up until now, they would shit themselves if they had to run their clubs on £60m/80m or so per season knowing that they would still have to honour their players big money multi year contracts.
 
The PL will give them some token fine or omething and they'll crack on
the cosnuewuences will be (thanksully) a dramatic fall in spending by footall clubs, with wages falling and tarefrs falling, because the pluticrats who who these clubs owned them and funded them in order to get a return from an eventual super league..nosuper league means they lose interest...means money comes out of the game and we go back to the 80s/90s era..and i regard that as a positove.
 
Both of them are as bad as each other. Everton are sulking. They never stop bleating about how the Europe ban stopped them being European Cup winners and becoming a massive club. The bear a huge grudge against Liverpool. They would have been on this like a:shot if offered it.

You do realise you're doing exactly what the ESL owners want you to? You're hitting out at the wrong target.

I don't really care what you think of EFC but I know my Club is rooted in our community, often accused of being a charity with a football team attached. The point is that six teams are threatening the entire integrity of the football pyramid by diluting competition. It'll hurt EFC, it'll hurt TRFC, it'll hurt SAFC. Now is the time to stand together, including the supprters of the six,something football supporters in this country fail to do far too often.

Hate us, presume what we'd decide if we were invited, I couldn't give a toss. But if you care about football get the right target in your sights.
 
The “legacy fans” comment really boils my piss. What an abhorrent, condescending comment to make.
I keep saying it mate. They don’t think the same way we do. They don’t care about the supporters that have coughed up for generations to help make the game the global spectacle it’s become. In fact I’d go as far as to say we are looked upon with disdain and most likely an impediment to their aims. Certainly now that we’ve had the audacity to get up on our back legs and express our opposition. They aren’t like us. They know nothing about us or how we care about the game and they don’t want to know. All they care about is money. Nothing more nothing less. It’s been driven into them since they were kids. We have footy they have the deal.That is their love and passion.
 
Kick them completely out of the league, threaten any other club with aspirations to join / qualify with the same punishment.
Everyone in Europe follows suit they end up having to try and entice a few "lesser" clubs from who knows where to try and get enough teams for their no promotion no relegation franchise.
It would die very quickly as people get bored of a European closed shop version of the SPL.

I don't even bother watching Champions League games till the knock outs, group games are dull as shit.

We may take a hit, but I believe the home leagues with outlast their shit league.
Give in to bullies and be bullied forever, stand up to them and they cry off.
 
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Classic from a uefa board member on 5live.

Nicky Campbell: they say they need to do this because of the costs they are incurring

Uefa: I shouldn't use such strong language on this programme.

NC: feel free

Uefa: ok. BULLSHIT.

Brilliant
noone is forcing the likes of barcelona to pay messi millions a week. their costs are entirely the clubs choice to pay. if it outstrips income, tough shit. go bust or sell messi. if they drop down the league, no fucks will be given.
 
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