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Ethiopian Airlines crash

Discussion in 'SMB' started by Monty Pigeon, Mar 10, 2019.

  1. Bishop Boy

    Bishop Boy Striker

    Knowing a good deal of aircraft history, it is no surprise what is in the above article.

    It backs up earlier comments about money being more important than lives.

    This plane was never meant to use turbofan engines, let alone yhe ones on the MAX. The 737 used to have a lopsided engine to give sufficient ground clearance.
  2. monkyArms

    monkyArms Subs Bench

    Good explanation
  3. AlpineExile

    AlpineExile Striker

    It fails to point out that the EMCAs 'works' by altering the trim on the tail wings, which is a further totally ridiculous thing Boeing thought was a good idea.
  4. AlpineExile

    AlpineExile Striker

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  5. Monty Pigeon

    Monty Pigeon Winger

  6. AlpineExile

    AlpineExile Striker

    Particularly if Trump's America keeps trying to fuck over Bombardier.
  7. Bishop Boy

    Bishop Boy Striker

  8. AlpineExile

    AlpineExile Striker

    Boeing needs the U.S. gov't to certify its jets, including the now-grounded 737 Max. So Boeing sponsored an event last week at—the Trump Hotel D.C. As Donald still owns this hotel he can profit from Boeing's sponsorship:

    Turkish–U.S. officials gathered at Trump Hotel D.C.
  9. Bishop Boy

    Bishop Boy Striker

  10. AlpineExile

    AlpineExile Striker

    That's weird cos that's not what was being said earlier. Never any talk of a 'disagreement alert'. Rather, it was said that only one of the AOA sensors were listened to by the software per flight, with the sensors switching over only on every restart of the plane.
  11. yorkyexile

    yorkyexile Striker

  12. AlpineExile

    AlpineExile Striker

    Boeing had known about the problem for a year before Lion Air but did nowt - leaving it for a future software update fix. After Lion Air it still did nowt for five months until Air Ethiopia ...

    Boeing knew of earlier 737 Max problem
  13. SYB_DC

    SYB_DC Winger

    To be fair, it was really Boeing that tried to fuck over Bombardier. The predatory pricing of the end of the 737NG production run started far before the trade cases were launched to try to sink the CSeries. They were just shocked that the Trump administration ITC didn't help them out.
  14. Monty Pigeon

    Monty Pigeon Winger

    A good summary of the story so far, and the human impact.

    The FAA have convened the committee to decide whether or not to approve Boeing's software changes. Personally, I believe the 737-Max should be scrapped. It has a design flaw. Work-around software doesn't change the fact that the engines are too big and in the wrong place. Economic concerns shouldn't come into it.
  15. I skipped through the video just to watch the pilot segments, absolutely horrific. 5 seconds of control out of 15, the other 10 is a 40 degree nose dive!

    Did I hear right, does MCAS only come into play when the flaps go in? So theoretically their only chance of survival would be to extend them again?
  16. Monty Pigeon

    Monty Pigeon Winger

    Theoretically, if they'd known why the plane was putting them into a nose-dive. But they didn't know. The pilots didn't have a clue about the existence of MCAS, let alone how to stop it.

    The corporate segments of the documentary are the most damning. Boeing was so cosy with the FAA that essentially they got to green-light their own planes, saving time and effort in getting them into the marketplace against Airbus.
  17. dangermows

    dangermows Striker


    On a side note, looking at the crash site, and relative lack of debris, puts to bed the theory Flight 93 didn't crash.
  18. JohnSmithUK

    JohnSmithUK Full Back

    Wrong thread, not the right place for that discussion.
  19. dangermows

    dangermows Striker

    Disagree, it's about a crash at high speed, but there you go. Wasnt wanting it to go into conspiracy discussion tbf.

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