English Fans singing no surrender

[Father Jack Hackett]

Is being anti-IRA right wing?

I, like most other normal people am anti IRA or any other terrorist organisation. However, this is normally sung by skinny bairns (who were in Amsterdam to see us play) who have no concept of the IRA as probably weren't even born.

 

[Cockney Mackem]

f***ing hell, I'm only asking the bloody question. If you want to wank over communism I suggest the politics forum

It was a bit of a leading question, like the old classic "have you stopped hitting your wife?"

 

[Guinness Guzzler]

I don't think I've ever heard that one inside the ground mind, think that's the one people are thinking of on this thread

I haven't either, tends to be one for the pubs prematch on away days, all I've ever heard in the ground is the bit during the anthem, which is nowt really

 

[Aituk7]

It was a bit of a leading question, like the old classic "have you stopped hitting your wife?"

Well yeah cos I genuinely don't see why singing a line that is anti a terrosist organisation is anything bad... unless ofc you love the IRA... how does it make you right wing either? Are lefties not allowed to be against terrorism now like?

 

[tynerider3]

It shows how out of touch FIFA are when they think they have the power to stop people singing songs by fining the relevant FA. Do they really think the fans consider this when singing? I do agree the song in question is pathetic

 

[Cockney Mackem]

Well yeah cos I genuinely don't see why singing a line that is anti a terrosist organisation is anything bad... unless ofc you live the IRA... how it makes you right wing either? Are lefties not allowed to be against terrorism now like?

It's not my fault that things aren't as simple as you'd like them to be fit your argument

 

[forzamilansafc]

Agreed. Can't they sing songs in celebration of the England football team instead of singing that shite? It's not as if the Irish were at the finals anyway.

Do you know the song this is on about?

 

[Aituk7]

It's not my fault that things aren't as simple as you'd like them to be fit your argument

Which is why I was asking the question....

 

[andysafc85]

Because it's us, 7 figure fine and expulsion from the next 3 tournaments

Imagine we made a swastika like the Croatian's did that time

 

[forzamilansafc]

Well yeah cos I genuinely don't see why singing a line that is anti a terrosist organisation is anything bad... unless ofc you love the IRA... how does it make you right wing either? Are lefties not allowed to be against terrorism now like?

It's just another case of people being offended on behalf of others, happens quite a bit on here

 

[Cockney Mackem]

Which is why I was asking the question....

The very leading question

 

[forzamilansafc]

Imagine we made a swastika like the Croatian's did that time

And because of that we can't attend the game in November England's Nations League match in Croatia will be behind closed doors

 

[daz]

Personally think its embarrassing, no need to sing that at a football match and the majority wont know why they are singing it anyway.

 

[Steve Leeds]

What about the Russian fans booing the Croat defender who talked about Ukraine? Political surely?

 

[ontap]

For singing against a terrorist organisation?

absolutely ffs this isn’t the 70,s.

 

[Aituk7]

It's just another case of people being offended on behalf of others, happens quite a bit on here

@Cockney Mackem I found out yesterday is a straight up conspiracy theorist. He believes people have a secret agenda to bring about the fourth reich. I was hoping someone who doesn't like the song being sung would explain what the actual issue is instead of just going a white man in an England top..... far right strikes again

 

[Cockney Mackem]

@Cockney Mackem I found out yesterday is a straight up conspiracy theorist. He believes people have an agenda to bring about the fourth reich. I was hoping someone who doesn't like the song being sung would explain what the actual issue is instead of just going a white man in an England top..... far right strikes again

So there's no history of the far right operating in England hooligan groups and no history of them using the situation in Northern Ireland as part of that?

 

[Aituk7]

So there's no history of the far right operating in England hooligan groups and no history of them using the situation in Northern Ireland as part of that?

So that's the reason why? Just because some people are far right and used to sing it?

absolutely ffs this isn’t the 70,s.

I wonder what the justification is then cos they don't just ban individual songs... does it fall under a political statement or something?

The very leading question

well formulate your own opinion and reveal it in the form of a post instead of bitching about the way I word things

 

[Cockney Mackem]

So that's the reason why? Just because some people are far right and used to sing it?


I wonder what the justification is then cos they don't just ban individual songs... does it fall under a political statement or something?

You know, if you really want to be unproductive and ignorant, why don't we ask what makes the IRA a terrorist organisation given that at this time they are inactive and don't even have any usable weapons?

 

[ontap]

So that's the reason why? Just because some people are far right and used to sing it?


I wonder what the justification is then cos they don't just ban individual songs... does it fall under a political statement or something?

Am talking about common decency , respectful behaviour , why do the majority of football supporters who wouldn’t dream of singing crap like that at a game have to be tarred with the same brush as the yobs who do ? If fifa take action I applaud it , the sooner we eradicate that sort of behaviour the better.