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England v SA 2nd test thread

Discussion in 'Cricket' started by chunkylover53, Jul 14, 2017.

  1. 7th test defeat in 10
     
  2. DaveAngel

    DaveAngel Central Defender

    Hates, Buttler and Rashid are not test quality

    Was bowling 86mph like
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2017
  3. viccarlton

    viccarlton Striker

    Very poor batting display, some of our batsmen (most of them) need to learn the basics, T20 skills do not transfer into the test arena.
     
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  4. SAFC 2012

    SAFC 2012 Striker

    Why do batsmen who clearly arent good enough keep being given chances

    Ballance is fucking hideous
    Dawson isnt up to much
    Same for jennings

    England are bang average as it stands
     
  5. DaveAngel

    DaveAngel Central Defender

    To be fair Jennings got a 100 like 3 tests ago
     
  6. Rip Van Fish

    Rip Van Fish Striker

    Buttler and Rashid?

    You are spinning in circles then
     
  7. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Winger

    Quite a few of this England team have letters after their name. Alastair Cook CBE, Stuart Broad MBE, James Anderson OBE, Gary Ballance LBW
     
  8. Mentality of the batsmen is all wrong, we have made no strides as a test team under Bayliss IMO.
     
  9. Dexter

    Dexter Striker

    We've gone backwards if anything, our recent test record is nothing short of shocking.
     
  10. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Winger

  11. It feels that way to be honest mate, we certainly aren't any better in the test arena. Michael Vaughan has hit the nail on the head for me today when he said that no one is prepared to make ugly runs. Only Cook is suited to doing that, the rest are either not good enough (Ballance, Dawson, possibly Jennings at this stage), or try and hit their way out of trouble (Stokes, Root, Ali).

    Dawson should be nowhere near the side, Ballance neither, and if he ever is in the team then not a chance should he be batting at 3, Jennings is woefully out of form and Wood needs to do more.

    Our batting line-up is unbalanced and irresponsible.

    Vaughan and Hussain are spot on, it's a bit of a widespread thing now due to T20, but England are simply not playing good test cricket too regularly now, and the main issue is the batting and the manner of dismissals.
     
  12. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Winger

    Fully agreed, Nasser has got it absolutely bang on especially.
     
  13. Keith S30S

    Keith S30S Inside right Staff Member Contributor

    All 3 are proven at international level, good characters, match winners and are still improving albeit the shorter versions of the game.

    I don't see anyone better, they deserve another chance at test cricket over the 3 average chokers we've picked.

    Obviously none of the 3 would be much kop in a backs to the wall situation like to today but if one of them came off we wouldn't have been in this dire position.
     
  14. DaveAngel

    DaveAngel Central Defender

    Vaughan also says the exact opposite every other week. Contradicts himself at every turn

    Nass spot on
     
  15. smoker

    smoker Striker

    Clue 2: the burning hatred of Michael Vaughan.

    Definitely Johnson.
     
  16. Clue 3: he's been to Vietnam
     
  17. DaveAngel

    DaveAngel Central Defender

    None of them are test quality

    Good cricketers but need some tougher and more patient cricketers

    These are just more of the same
     
  18. Disagree about them being test quality although the jury is out on Hales, but I wholeheartedly agree with your second point, we need some grit and concentration, not more dashers.
     
  19. DaveAngel

    DaveAngel Central Defender

    Ballance might have been ok at 5 but they have stitched him up twice

    He was called up to soon last year whilst out of form and he's now been placed out of position

    He will never recover from this I reckon
     
  20. He's technically the worst number three I can recall seeing, he's been hung out to dry being put there again.
     

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