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England v India 5th Test

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The Rat said:
I know man, so are you

Listen let’s not fall out about it but I find your point slightly contradictory

Pace up lately

Good move getting Stokes on when it swings, genuinely think could be Anderson successor
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I think Woakes will be if you mean new ball bowler. I think Woakes with the duke is very good and tight.

If you mean vicious swinger, then I think Stokes is already the best in the world other than Anderson. Some of the balls he bowls when it's swinging are the most unplayable I've ever seen, but I like him more as first change when the lacquer is definitely off.

Where we need more from Stokes is abroad. He's the one - apart from Archer coming through - that I think has real potential overseas, because he looks to be a natural reverser and can bowl 90mph. But he hasn't done it consistently outside of England yet.
 

On a wider note Steak Pie still wouldn't select Buttler for the Sri Lanka tour after his Trent Bridge 100. I wonder if he still holds the same view.
 
Remember, England aren't that good at home @smoker

ffs :lol::lol:

Mrjardine said:
I’m not guna fall out over it man.
Your point is also contradictory by the way.
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Yeah but the point about keeping Buttler at 7 is the exact same point you make for moving Bairstow up the order

Comeback_Kenwyne said:
I think Woakes will be if you mean new ball bowler. I think Woakes with the duke is very good and tight.

If you mean vicious swinger, then I think Stokes is already the best in the world other than Anderson. Some of the balls he bowls when it's swinging are the most unplayable I've ever seen, but I like him more as first change when the lacquer is definitely off.

Where we need more from Stokes is abroad. He's the one - apart from Archer coming through - that I think has real potential overseas, because he looks to be a natural reverser and can bowl 90mph. But he hasn't done it consistently outside of England yet.
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He has been good abroad like, he just hasn't played in a while

Woakes is older than Stokes remember, people forget that, long term I see Stokes with new ball


I am also unsure what to do with Curran, we woldn't have won the series without him, but also not sure he is good enough to be in the side as a bowler, away from home
 
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The Rat said:
Remember, England aren't that good at home @smoker

ffs :lol::lol:



Yeah but the point about keeping Buttler at 7 is the exact same point you make for moving Bairstow up the order



He has been good abroad like, he just hasn't played in a while

Woakes is older than Stokes remember, people forget that, long term I see Stokes with new ball


I am also unsure what to do with Curran, we woldn't have won the series without him, but also not sure he is good enough to be in the side as a bowler, away from home
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It isn’t I’ve never suggested moving Buttler up as he’s not a top 5 player on longer form of game, he’s a perfect 7 and needs to stay there with gloves, I’ve said this for about 12 months now.

Bairstow should be top 5 and relieved of gloves, I’ve said this for about 18 months.

You don’t want Bairstow to move as he’s had success at 7 yet want Buttler too despite him having success there.

That is contradictory.
 
England are so si
Mrjardine said:
It isn’t I’ve never suggested moving Buttler up as he’s not a top 5 player on longer form of game, he’s a perfect 7 and needs to stay there with gloves, I’ve said this for about 12 months now.

Bairstow should be top 5 and relieved of gloves, I’ve said this for about 18 months.

You don’t want Bairstow to move as he’s had success at 7 yet want Buttler too despite him having success there.

That is contradictory.
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Why isn't Buttler a top 5 player?

You suggested Bairstow move up and he has failed massively?

Yet you think Buttler shouldn't move up

Its so contradictory

I honestly don't belueve you have watched any cricket this summer, Buttler is clearly a more solid batsman in defence than Bairstow, its blindingly obvious

You have a massive pre-conceived idea about both players and are too stubborn to change

Its almost like you can't remember Jonny batting 7

How is Buttler not a top 5 batsman :lol:
 
Fantastic character to come back into this match today. Indian bats seem to have learned nothing, nicking off to second slip time after time.
 
The Rat said:
England are so si


Why isn't Buttler a top 5 player?

You suggested Bairstow move up and he has failed massively?

Yet you think Buttler shouldn't move up

Its so contradictory

I honestly don't belueve you have watched any cricket this summer, Buttler is clearly a more solid batsman in defence than Bairstow, its blindingly obvious

You have a massive pre-conceived idea about both players and are too stubborn to change

Its almost like you can't remember Jonny batting 7

How is Buttler not a top 5 batsman :lol:
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I’ve alreasy explained why I don’t think he’s a top 5 player, I’ve also explained why I think Bairstow is.

It’ll be about 18 months too late but I won’t be surprised to see gloves off Bairstow for winter and told to get on with his batting.
 
Mrjardine said:
I’ve alreasy explained why I don’t think he’s a top 5 player, I’ve also explained why I think Bairstow is.

It’ll be about 18 months too late but I won’t be surprised to see gloves off Bairstow for winter and told to get on with his batting.
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As I say, its almost like you've watched no cricket this summer
 
toosb said:
Has a team ever stuffed the top ranked team in the world 4-1 and received so much criticism?
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We won already?

India are number 1 by virtue of their home performances where they serve up the most doctored pitches in the world. They've always been poor on their travels and never won a test series in SA or Australia.
 
smoker said:
We won already?

India are number 1 by virtue of their home performances where they serve up the most doctored pitches in the world. They've always been poor on their travels and never won a test series in SA or Australia.
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I know all that. But they're ranked number 1.
 
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