The Breen Machine
Striker
Sadly, I’ll get bored of this before you do.
England v Australia 1st ODI 11/9/20 1pm start
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Sadly, I’ll get bored of this before you do.
TravellingMackem
Winger
I got bored of watching all the dots
I find it incredible that we had them 123-5, we needed less than a run per ball at the start of our innings and the number 6 who scored 100 at better than a run a ball is the one getting the stick. Should have finished them off when bowling, top order should have scored more/faster and if Billings was being that selfish why did he hit out on the last ball instead of playing for the red ink?
Jesus wept, log off
TravellingMackem
Winger
Bit late hitting out at 26 off 4 marra. Played for the 100 and not the win. Plenty here have stated similar both at the time and since.
Called it early on the thread. The lad is deliberately being contrary for some reason. He is now the only cricket contributor I’ve used the ignore feature on.
ive read enough of his posts to realise his schtick on here
Don’t think that will happen. They’ve waited to get Roy in the side, after one game leave him out? I do understand where you are coming from on malan but imo, he’s strictly now a T20 specialist batsman
imo, the same eleven will be playing on Sunday unless there was an injury today somewhere
The Breen Machine
Striker
They need to look at replacing Ali but I don’t think they can do it without affecting the balance of the side given the selected squad.
Same team for me.
TravellingMackem
Winger
Play Malan and bowl Root. Will offer as much as Mo does with the ball, so might as well have an extra batter instead of a doughnut
Called it early on the thread that Billings and Mo would cost us the game. Good at this predicting lark
scaly_piscine
Goalkeeper
They might bring in a one of the Currans in for Moeen - most of the World Cup was 4 seamers + Stokes + Rashid. But they seem determined to try and get Moeen back in form. His bowling just looks so flat and negative, I suppose that's how he bowls in limited overs stuff, never going to get anyone out and Morgan likes to have genuine wicket taking options even if they're expensive. Hell even Root is probably a bigger wicket taking threat than Moeen.
I think you need a proper 5th bowler regardless. If England had one they probably win tonight.
I think you need a proper 5th bowler regardless. If England had one they probably win tonight.
Ppl are critisicng the batting which is fair enough but we had them 5 down and didn't get one furtherwicket in the middle of their innings (23-43 overs) bear in mind in the world cup this is where we were strong with plunkett quite rightly singled out as effective during those range of overs
I haven't put anyone on ignore in 17 years of being on here but I'm tempted
I think he’s got half a point. No cricketer is going to fire every game so the likes of Morgan, Buttler etc getting low scores yesterday just happens. And guys with low scores will generally chew up balls/ bat with a strike rate below 100.
However when a bloke gets ‘in’ the onus is on him to throw the bat when the rate gets above say 10 an over. So if Billings was going slowly after he got to, say, 70 I do think Morgan might have had a word.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Sometimes I have to read statements twice, as think I have made a mistake, as someone surely could not say something so stupid!
And this is one of them, ‘Billings cost us the game’ cost us the game!!
Sometimes posters just never cease to amaze me, what a load of shit
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TravellingMackem
Winger
62 from 36 was it? And he starts batting singles to get his 100. That cost us the game from a winnable position. Plenty questioned it at the time as well on here. I’d rather he got out swinging on 99 caught mid on than got his 100 and we lost the game anyway
I think Billings was trying to increase his rate, the Aussies just bowled really well. He wasn't patting the ball back to the bowler. And he also had to balance that if he got out it was game over so he had to up his rate (which he did) without throwing all caution to the wind. I still think he's way down the list of reasons that we lost.
Voice of fair play
Striker
There is a stark difference between not trying to score and been pinned down by good bowling as plenty of others have said.
Even if your argument is true ( which is not) criticise him by all means, but don’t say it ‘cost us the game,.
There is couple of posters on here and you are one who constantly blow things out of context!
rentaghost
Striker
I would like to think I know my cricket. I have played at a reasonable level, alongside and against test cricketers, captained teams and there are plenty of lads on here who know more than me and who I learn stuff from on here. There are lads who have played at a really high level and are incredibly sharp with their cricket knowledge. This board much more that the football forum is a fountain of knowledge at times. However everyone, including yourself is entitled to an opinion. We are a broad church.
TravellingMackem
Winger
Fine line I agree - I just think he was on the other side to yourself. And earlier there were others on both sides as well, so hardly just me.
But if he was playing for his hundred, he did by definition cost us a chance at winning the game. It’s a team effort, and Billings made it to 100 in part due to the early work of other players seeing off other bowlers, such as Bairstow, and playing Billings into a position to capitalise, he was there at the end to try to take advantage of the situation and get us over the line - just think not taking the risks necessary to win is criminal.
Take the Xamper last overs for instance, he hit a good reverse for 4, but then the Aussies covered it but he played 4 more reverses in the next 2 overs for a single into that area along the ground. You aren’t going to reverse along the ground for four with a fielder out there, so you either try to go aerial and beat him or pick another shot, like the lofty drive over extra where the man isn’t on the boundary anymore. Yes it has more risk but also more reward and overs 42 and 44 needed more risk chasing 10 an over than to pile pressure onto Woakes at the other end (which incidentally meant he holed out himself). But you aren’t winning by singling to point at the end of the day, especially knowing what they had to come. Buttler in the T20 showed much better ways to score heavily against the spin than Billings attempted. I wouldn’t have minded if he’d have tried and failed, it’s the not trying and taking the easy option that doesn’t sit right
Im sure we all have played plenty of the sport. Not sure what the point in the post is however
