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Eng v NZ - 2nd ODI

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Must be the end, at least for a while, for these two in 50 over format. Dernbach maybe in 2020 and Woakes future test all rounder. Offer nothing in this format. Need to get another spinner involved. Rashid could be an option or Briggs.
 
Must be the end, at least for a while, for these two in 50 over format. Dernbach maybe in 2020 and Woakes future test all rounder. Offer nothing in this format. Need to get another spinner involved. Rashid could be an option or Briggs.

Not sure if Rashid's a good enough bowler given that he'd have to bowl 8/10 overs in the current line up. Tredwell's never let anyone down, wouldn't bother me that we had 2 offies (unless there was a really short boundary).

Still think we're an all-rounder short of a decent side. How's Stokes playing this season, look like he can make the step up? Or that lad Coles at Kent?
 
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