Ellis Short - the worst thing to happen to SAFC in a near 140 year history


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Surely you didn't believe a word of that shite when he came out with it?
 
Yes it’s a travesty the way he’s overseen a huge investment in the club, and our longest unbroken spell in the top flight for decades.

People need to get a grip. He’s made mistakes in his managerial appointments and if he’s guilty of anything, it’s backing the wrong managers too far. However he’s not exactly turned a profit at the clubs expense. He’s the biggest loser out of everyone on the back of what’s happened.
I disagree. Short lost his own money through his own stupidity - bad appointments from top to bottom, sanctioning bad buys, making managers buy volume and cheaply, not backing managers, broken promises including his most recent etc. I'm afraid he's gone back to the mighty USA to be rid of us. He might lose money (temporarily) but he's not a fan and never will be. Not like me - 67 years and counting. He has no idea at all about the highs and lows of football never mind those of the club we all love and support. How many times has Ellis Short cried, frozen nearly to death, broken down in the car or a bus on the way to a game or back? Has he ever nearly divorced the wife over football? Does he know what it's like to want to be alone all weekend, nay all week after another humiliating result? I doubt it!

Don't anyone tell me Ellis Short is the biggest loser in our rapid and humiliating demise.
 
Wait til he sells the ground to himself on the cheap (under another company name) and starts renting it back to us. We would get an instant bonus of 5% of the value back for Coleman to spend on 45 new players. 750k goes a long way when you scour the Bolivian non league

It's been suggested that that was what the people looking to buy were going to do (now that's proper asset stripping), and that was why Short turned them down.

Wonder what interest we will have paid back on that? Maybe the ground rent on Shorts hotel could go towards it?

It's about £6m a year. Prior to that, there was a £40m overdraft at a similar rate costing about £3m a year.
 
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I can't believe anyone has any sympathy or is defending him. He appointed his mate's son to head up the most extreme change in recruitment in our history man. Would he have gotten one of his mate's bairns to run one of his national banks in Korea if all they had done was work as a cashier in the local Nat West?
He then allegedly appointed Di Canio on the advice of a waiter in an Italian restaurant.
Fuck knows where he got Congerton and his basketball, laptop-carrying mate from, probably working the tills at B&M or something.
 
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and the SBC one?
I've obviously never ran a multi million pound company but, people with shit credit get mortgages for less than 8% interest.
Is that the norm for someone who owns national banks?

It was reported recently that some private companies are paying 30% on arranged overdrafts. Given the state of the balance sheet, and the associated credit risk we represent, the rate is about right.
 
Yes it’s a travesty the way he’s overseen a huge investment in the club, and our longest unbroken spell in the top flight for decades.

People need to get a grip. He’s made mistakes in his managerial appointments and if he’s guilty of anything, it’s backing the wrong managers too far. However he’s not exactly turned a profit at the clubs expense. He’s the biggest loser out of everyone on the back of what’s happened.
That may well be true, however it’s what he does now and next that counts, clearly doing nothing is not an option.
Or is it ? He obviously isn’t emotionally invested in the club the way we are. Maybe he can rake up enough to pay off the loan and then bail. Maybe he won’t lose a wink of sleep other than from a financial aspect if we should drop again.
Only he knows. That’s what worries me more than anything. The club is in his hands, and it scares me to death.
 

We're at a point now where the football isn't a priorty for those running the club hence the results.

Martin Bain is now taking us through a managed decline
Yes it’s a travesty the way he’s overseen a huge investment in the club, and our longest unbroken spell in the top flight for decades.

People need to get a grip. He’s made mistakes in his managerial appointments and if he’s guilty of anything, it’s backing the wrong managers too far. However he’s not exactly turned a profit at the clubs expense. He’s the biggest loser out of everyone on the back of what’s happened.

He's not the biggest loser in real terms. He can afford to lose the money he's lost, but he hasn't lost anything else. We seem to have lost our football club, and lots of our own money watching it go to shite to boot.
 
You can say what you want about short.

The fact of the matter is, he’s the owner, we aren’t, a negative attitude from the fans is going to get us nothing.

There’s plenty of worse owners about than him.

He’s just taken too much bad advice on board imho.
 
You can say what you want about short.

The fact of the matter is, he’s the owner, we aren’t, a negative attitude from the fans is going to get us nothing.

There’s plenty of worse owners about than him.

He’s just taken too much bad advice on board imho.

Name one.

I can't believe anyone has any sympathy or is defending him. He appointed his mate's son to head up the most extreme change in recruitment in our history man. Would he have gotten one of his mate's bairns to run one of his national banks in Korea if all they had done was work as a cashier in the local Nat West?
He then allegedly appointed Di Canio on the advice of a waiter in an Italian restaurant.
Fuck knows where he got Congerton and his basketball, laptop-carrying mate from, probably working the tills at B&M or something.

Its amazing anyone can defend him at all. The mans a f***ing clown.
 
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